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ORANGE COUNTY & LOCAL NEWS
TH-R's editorial writter doesn't know his Automatic from his Semi-automatic gun ban. TH-R's editorial writer doesn't know his Automatic from his Semi-automatic gun ban
David Dirks TH-R column, Youth duck hunt and Deer management permit update David Dirks TH-R columns, NYC's proposed rule changes for reservoirs land, Youth duck hunt and Deer management permit update

NY STATE NEWS

Legislature nixes pistol permit renewals Legislature nixes pistol permit renewals
WARNING: Do Not Bring Handguns To New York Airports WARNING: Do Not Bring Handguns To New York Airports
NY State License Year October 1, 2004-September 30, 2005 Sales NY State License Year October 1, 2004-September 30, 2005 Sales

NATIONAL NEWS

Crimes with guns treated severely Crimes with guns treated severely
Handgun Control Inc. looses lawsuite against Beretta for 2nd time Handgun Control Inc. looses lawsuite against Beretta for 2nd time
H.R. 218 – LAW ENFORCEMENT SAFETY ACT PASSES AND IS SIGNED H.R. 218 – LAW ENFORCEMENT SAFETY ACT PASSES AND IS SIGNED
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CoBIS or Gun "DNA" Watch

DATE
# OF GUNS
CHANGE
MONEY SPENT
# OF CoBIS "Hits"
8/1/004
77,194
1,901
$14,000,000 +?

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SPECIAL NEWS
     I was on NRANEWS.com on 8/18/04 talking about the TH-R Editorial and the Kerry Pictures. The guys were great and let me plug my website 4 times. If you have not checked out NRANEWS.com do so today. It is a live internet broadcast from 2PM to 5PM every week day and you can dowload the previous broadcast as soon as the live broadcast is over.
CLICK HERE TO SEE MY JUNE ARTICLE
ORANGE COUNTY NEWS

TH-R's editorial writter doesn't know his Automatic from his Semi-automatic gun ban. TH-R's editorial writer doesn't know his Automatic from his Semi-automatic gun ban

     The TH-R's July 28, 2004 editorial, Fewer cops, more guns? contained the following line, "At the same time, a congressional ban on the production and sale of automatic weapons, enacted after Colin Ferguson used one to kill six people and wound 19 on a Long Island Railroad train in 1993, is about to expire."
     Please send in a letter to let them know of their error. Bob Gaydos, Editorial Page Editor, rgaydos@th-record.com, 346-3182
     Click Here for 8/5/04 Letter to the Editor

UPDATE: 8/18/04 11:00AM- I talked to Bob Gaydos and he said that they will print a correction on 8/11/04 and he did. Quess where? On page 2 below the index:

"An editorial on July 28 calling for the renewal of a federal ban on assault weapons should have referred to them as semi-automatic weapons."

Fewer cops, more guns?
July 28, 2004

     Former President Bill Clinton delivered an electric speech Monday night at the Democratic Convention, offering delegates and viewers with a litany of reasons to reject George W. Bush and elect John F. Kerry. Depending, of course, on one's political persuasion.
     Of all the issues Clinton ticked off to draw differences between Kerry and Bush, one in particular seemed like a gimme from the White House. At a time when Americans are increasingly concerned about security, Clinton pointed out that the president is taking 80,000 cops off the streets and letting thousands of assault weapons back on the streets.
     That's a fact. A stupid, scary, easily reversible fact.
     Bush has proposed an 80 percent cut in funding for the popular community policing program begun by Clinton. That program put 118,000 more police officers on the streets in cities across America.
     At the same time, a congressional ban on the production and sale of automatic weapons, enacted after Colin Ferguson used one to kill six people and wound 19 on a Long Island Railroad train in 1993, is about to expire. The president has said he favors renewing the ban, as do most Americans. But House and Senate Republicans leaders, in the pocket of the National Rifle Association are stalling on the ban. They say they won't act unless Bush sends a message to them saying he would like it renewed.
     So do it. Doesn't it make sense to put more cops on the street and take assault weapons off the street? Why give Democrats an issue when this one's so easily reversible?


MY E-MAIL TO BOB:
     Thank you for taking the time to talk to me today. I know that the error that you made today might seem like a small matter to you but it is major to us. Even with your correction you can not correct the incorrect information that some people will have who saw your original article but do not read your correction.
     You support the current AWB but do you support the bills that are proposed that would expand the ban? Will you say that you do not support expanding the ban? (Remember that Pres. Clinton said that the AWB and gun control cost the Dems Congress and Gore his election.)
     In your new article, please list what guns you think that it should be OK for me and other people who follow the law to own to use in shooting and to protect my family with. How long are they suppose to be, what rounds should they fire and most important, what colour should they be?
     Is a gun that holds 10 rounds OK or would you feel better if I only owned guns that held 9, 8, 7, 6, 5, or 4 rounds? Would you feel better if all of the guns that I own only hold 1 round and would you feel best if I owned no guns at all.
     How do you decide what guns should be banned? I own shot-guns and hunting guns that work the same as the banned guns but are more accurate at a longer range and have a much more deadlier bullet.
     In your article please make sure that people know that it is OK with you to punish gun owners for a possible act by a criminal that might occur in the future. That "Innocent until proven guilty" does not apply to gun owners and that it is OK to punishing me and others before I am even charged with an illegal act.
     Why don't you propose the same types of laws in other areas. Your camera can only hold film or memory for 10 pictures because some people use cameras to take child porn. No cars can be painted red because that is the colour that is involved in the most traffic accidents. Cars can not hold more that enough gas to go 50 miles to reduce that car chases that we have all seen on TV.
     The most disappointing part of all of this to me is the fact that you are protected by the first Amendment and as far as I am concerned you have an obligation to inform your readers based on fact and not personal bias and misinformation. That you know so little about guns is obvious. That you think that you know a lot about guns is also obvious based on the fact that you think that you know what kind of guns that I should or should not own. I do know something about guns and know that almost all of the guns that you want to ban are the same guns that we hunt and target shoot with.
      It is OK if you do not like guns but just say that you don't like guns, not that you don't like this gun because of its colour, that gun because it is too big or that gun because it is too small or that gun because it shoots a bullet that is too big or that gun because it shoots a bullet that is too fast or that gun because it shoots a bullet too far or that gun because it is too light or that gun because it is a "pocket rocket" or ...

David Dirks TH-R column, Youth duck hunt and Deer management permit update David Dirks TH-R columns, NYC's proposed rule changes for reservoirs land, NYC's Youth duck hunt and Deer management permit update

     David Dirks' 8/3/04 column has information about proposed changes on the 112,000 acres of land surrounding its reservoirs including 33,000 acres reserved for hunting. The changes listed in the column all look positive. The DEC will be holding public hearings starting September 1st in Flushing, Mahopac, Walton, Shandaken and Grahamsville and it is important that the hunting public show up. For more information go to http://www.nyc.gov/html/dep/watershed/html/wsrecrules.html
     David Dirks' 8/10/04 column has information about this years Youth duck hunt and Deer management permit information. The DEC's special youth waterfowl hunt days for junior hunters between the ages of 12 and 15 years runs Sept. 25- 26. The column also contains information about Deer management permits that might be of interest to local hunters in units 3M, 3R, 3J, 3C and 3F. The last day to apply for permits is Oct. 1. Leftover permits go on sale – first come, first served basis only – starting Nov. 1.
     David Dirks' outdoors column appears Tuesday in the Times Herald-Record. Write to him at P.O. Box 87, Westtown 10998, or dirksoutdoors@hotmail.com.


NEW YORK STATE NEWS

Legislature nixes pistol permit renewals Legislature nixes pistol permit renewals
Albany, August 11, 2004, Paul Ertelt
CLICK HERE FOR THE TH-R ARTICLE   

      The state Legislature this week plans to finally put to rest the governor's proposal to require regular renewals of pistol licenses.
     The governor wanted pistol owners to renew their licenses every five years and pay a fee of at least $100. Now, unless they're revoked for cause, pistol licenses are good for life.
     The fee would have generated an estimated $31 million a year. Administration officials also argued that the renewal requirement would help the state police keep its database of handgun owners up to date. More than 1 million pistol licenses have been issued in New York since 1936.
     But many of the governor's fellow Republicans in the Legislature were incensed by the proposal, arguing that it would infringe on Second Amendment rights while serving no law-enforcement purpose.
     "The people least likely to commit crimes with guns are the law-abiding pistol licensees whose guns are registered and whose fingerprints are on record with the state police and the FBI," said Sen. James Seward, R-Milford.
     This week, lawmakers plan to pass a public-safety budget bill that does not include the pistol-permit proposal.

  • Orange County passed unanimously, 21 -0, a resolution against Pataki's plan. (I spoke for 3 min.)
  • Fee hikes a slap to gun owners, By David Dirks, Times Herald-Record, 2/24/04
  • Tompkins, Putnam, Dutchess, Hamilton, Columbia, Lewis, Orleans, Tioga, Niagara,Yates, Sullivan, Cattaraugus, Cayuga, Erie,St. Lawrence and Delaware, Allegany counties, Worth Town Board have also passed resolutions in opposition to renewable licenses and increased fees.

WARNING: Do Not Bring Handguns To New York Airports WARNING: Do Not Bring Handguns To New York Airports

From NRA:

The District Attorney in Albany County and Queens 18 months ago issued an order to arrest anyone coming through the airports with a handgun in their luggage, regardless if the handgun was being transported properly by FAA regulations. The criteria is if you do not have a NY license, you are charged. So what's happening is 2 different scenarios:

  1. People are flying into New York from other states, most but not all of whom have carry permits from their home states, and are carrying a pistol. When they go to fly home, they declare the gun, which has always been unloaded and locked up properly in their checked luggage, but if they cannot produce a NY license, they are promptly charged with illegal weapon possession, and their gun confiscated forever. (The Albany airport sheriff has been doing it as a lower class misdemeanor, the LaGuardia cases were charged as a felony.) As their home state permit is not reciprocal, and they were in NY state for an amount of time carrying a handgun, this group is screwed.
  2. People are DRIVING to the airport from another state where the NY airport is their closest one to fly out of, and are getting popped right off the bat an hour or two from their home. In these cases, we are going to war for them being covered by FOPA, even the Sheriff's office and TSA in Albany have argued over that with the DA, but he won't budge. He did, however, blink on the two cases from Albany, with the people getting a walk. Didn't get their guns back, though, either time.

Bottom line, UNLESS you are in possession of a VALID New York pistol license, DO NOT bring a handgun in your luggage to the airport, you will be charged.

This is not being done in any other state in the country except at Logan international in Boston, (same thing there) but even at O'Hare in Illinois, if you come in from another state and meet FAA guidelines, they feel you are covered by FOPA and off you go a happy camper.

Jacob J. Rieper, Legislative Director
New York State Rifle & Pistol Association
http://www.nysrpa.org
http://www.rpa-pac.org

NY State License Year October 1, 2004-September 30, 2005 Sales NY State License Year October 1, 2004-September 30, 2005 Sales
CLICK HERE FOR DEC WEBSITE LINK

Beginning August 16, 2004, you may purchase 2004-2005 sporting licenses and permits via DECALS at:

* all license issuing outlets (most municipal clerks' offices and many sporting goods stores),
* by phone* at 1-86-NY-DECALS (1-866-933-2257) or
* by mail to: WorldCom, P.O. Box 36985, Phoenix AZ 85067-6985. A Mail order application form (54 kb pdf) is available.

* In order to apply for a hunting license by phone you need to have proof of hunting qualification in the computerized system (currently anyone who has been issued a New York State hunting license since August of 2002 and graduates of hunter education courses in New York since 1980.)


NATIONAL

Crimes with guns treated severely OUR OPINON: Crimes with guns treated severely
Opinon that we would like to see in the TH-R
from the Valdosta Daily Times, Valdosta, GA
CLICK HERE FOR THE 08/24/04 ARTICLE

     Want a way to waste your life? Follow the example of Frederick Thomas of Valdosta.
      Thomas, 20, can expect to spend most of his life in prison because of his use of a gun in four criminal incidents.
     Formerly of 3833 North Oak St. Ext., Thomas was sentenced to 62 years in prison and 100 years probation last week. He was convicted of nine counts of aggravated assault and nine counts of possession of a firearm during the commission of a crime. The charges stem from three drive-by shootings and a fourth incident where Thomas pulled a gun on someone near Valdosta High School.
     More than a few people could have been killed in these incidents, including bystanders and others who were not engaged in criminal activity.
     Young people who are using guns and living on the edge should note Thomas' tough sentence. He has lost all personal freedoms for a good part of the rest of his years.
     The courts should continue to slam the book at those who consider others' lives with so little regard.

Handgun Control Inc. looses lawsuite against Beretta for 2nd time Handgun Control Inc. looses lawsuite against Beretta for 2nd time
CLICK HERE FOR WHOLE ARTICLE

OAKLAND, Calif. – A Oakland, CA. jury found that firearm manufacturer Beretta U.S.A. Corp. was not responsible for the tragic 1994 accidental shooting death of a 14-year-old boy. Kenzo Dix was killed when his friend played with a firearm that was left loaded and unlocked by an irresponsible parent. The jury deliberated only five hours before returning a verdict in favor of Beretta U.S.A. Corp., finding the pistol’s design did not cause the accident.
      This was the third time the case had been tried. The lawsuit was filed in 1995 on behalf of the parents of Dix by lawyers from Handgun Control Inc. (since renamed as Brady Center to Prevent Gun Violence). Handgun Control Inc. tried to claim Beretta was at fault for not having included a built-in lock and for not providing more warnings by having a different “loaded chamber indicator” feature than the one on the firearm. The case gained national media attention in late 1998 when a jury in the first trial found that the design of the Beretta pistol was not defective and did not cause the accident. An appellate court, however, ordered a retrial because a juror allegedly told fellow jurors he didn’t think Beretta was at fault before the jury began its deliberations. In a retrial last year the plaintiffs were again unable to convince a jury that the pistol's design was defective and caused the accident resulting in a mistrial.
     Handgun Control Inc,. (aka Brady Center to Prevent Gun Violence,) has not issued a press release on their web site.

H.R. 218 – LAW ENFORCEMENT SAFETY ACT PASSES AND IS SIGNED H.R. 218 – LAW ENFORCEMENT SAFETY ACT PASSES AND IS SIGNED

     H.R. 218 allows qualified active and retired law enforcement officers to carry concealed firearms on which they are trained and certified by their state to use. Active law enforcement officers must carry the photographic identification issued by the agency for which they are employed. Retired law enforcement officers must carry the photographic identification issued by the agency for which they were employed and documentation which show they have met the qualification standards in their state of residence for the firearm they are carrying. Certification is a state function. While many states already have a process by which to receive certifications, several do not. The bill became effective upon its signing by Pres. Bush on July 22, 2004.
     In NY State one question left unanswered at this time is if the police departments of the retired LEOs will recertify the retired LEOs. (I will be trying to check on this in the next few weeks.)
     This bill was sponsored by Congressman Randy “Duke” Cunningham (R-San Diego) in the House and he has more info on his web site at: CLICK HERE FOR INFORMATION ON NEW LAW ENFORCEMENT SAFETY ACT (RIGHT TO CARRY LAW) Make sure that you call his office and thank him.

 

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