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This is the new section of Senate Bill S51001 dealing with the new ammo background check.
1. According NYSP's last memo, September 13, 2023 is when the new background checks for guns and ammo is supposed to start. (Vs the original Aug. 1st date.)
2. Fee for Ammo check will be $2.50 and guns will be $9.00.
3. Only people registered with the NYSP can conduct the background check.
4. Private individuals who are selling their own ammunition will be exempt for now because they did not change the definition of who the seller of ammunition is. (I am not a lawyer and this is not legal advice. We will have to wait and see if they arrest someone at one of the gun flea markets.) Article 265 - NY Penal Law; Definitions; 24. "Seller of ammunition" means any person, firm, partnership, corporation or company who engages in the business of purchasing, selling or keeping ammunition.
5. People who live outside of NY can still buy Ammo in NY if they are willing to pay the fee.
6. I don't see any part of the law that prohibits individuals from buying ammo from another state and bringing it back to NY for personal use. (This is really going to shut down many small gun stores who need the cash flow to stay in business. This is not an unintended consequence but a benefit to the anti-gunners.)
7. I had not realized it but the law requires high school Trap league coaches, who are required to be registered ammo sellers, to do a background check EVERY time they give ammunition to a student at a cost of $2.50 each per student. Following that logic, if a gun club has a registered ammo seller so that they can buy bulk ammo for distribution to participants in their trap leagues, those registered ammo sellers would also have to do a background check at the cost of $2.50 each and every time they hand somebody a box of 25 shotgun shells. See: https://www.nysenate.gov/.../senator-borrello-urges...
Several lawsuits have already been started and for the life of me I can't see how they can think that this is Constitutional. A Poll Tax for buying guns or Ammo? One lawsuit that has already gone to the supreme court asking for a stay of the new law was rejected in January. Thank you Supreme Court Associate Justice Sonia Sotomayor. PS: I don't expect the 2nd Circuit will deliver a decision on the 5 cases it has before it until sometime in September.
THE NEW NEW YORK ANTI-GUN LAWS
DARK ANTI-GUN FORCES HAVE TAKEN OVER THE NY STATE GOVERNMENT.
We all just need to take a breath and wait for all of the lawsuits to make their way through the courts. While things look bad right now it is going to be hard for NY to keep all of the stupid laws that they put in place but some changes will stay. It is impossible for me to read all of the court filings and other documents. At this point I can say that you should not carry your handgun anywhere because unless you get in your car and drive around the block and then go home, if you go anywhere else you might be breaking the law. I went through the law and made it more readable so if you want to take the time feel free but remember that DCJS, the NYSP, your local county Sheriff's Office, your local Judge and others will interpret the new laws and it might not match up with what the plain language of the new law. As an example, the law states that if you are not in your car you must store and gun, including long guns, unloaded and in a container that: “SHALL BE FIRE, IMPACT, AND TAMPER RESISTANT.” But the DEC and the NYSP in their FAQ about the new law allows "A plastic or aluminum, lockable, hard-sided, gun case or safe will suffice for this purpose." I don't think I have ever seen PLASTIC that is fire resistant, whatever that means.
I am not giving classes right now. The class is 16 hours long and you will have an additional 2 hours of range time. The shooting requirement should be very easy for most people to pass because you are shooting at a large target at 12' with only 4 out of 5 shots needing to hit the target in order to pass. They don't limit how many tries you have so I really expect everyone that tries to pass. I think that with some practice Stevie Wonder could pass.
IF YOU DON'T ALREADY HAVE A LICENSE
YOU WAITED TOO LONG
If you have just decided that you need a handgun license I have to ask: what were you thinking. You are too late to get one in the next year or two.
GOING FORWARD
$350 to $400 seems to be the going rate right now but I expect a wide range of prices. You have to remember that the instructor will have to supply the guns you use and the ammo and the instructors will have other expenses like insurance.
RECERTIFICATION OF YOUR
PISTOL LICENSE
THE NEW LAW IS 3 YEARS
If your pistol license was issued before 1/15/2013 and you have not recertifed you could loose your handgun license and if you don't turn in your license and all of your handguns when the police to show up to take your handguns they will take all of your guns, not just your handguns. They will take all of your handguns, rifles and shotguns and they will destroy them under NY law! If you don't recertify your handgun license 3 years from the date your license was issued or when you last recertified, you will become a FELON and subject to arrest and a mandatory 3 1/2 years in Jail.
This in not a one time deal! Everyone will have to recertify the infomation on their handgun license 3 years after it was issued and after that, every five years from their recertification date. NY does not have to notify you!
Any person or club or county federation can start a web
site. We should have one for each county in NY State. It
does not have to be as large as OCShooters but you can just
give some local information. Click above to get some ideas
and info.
GUN BUYBACK PROGRAM
Do you have a gun that you got because of
the death of a relative or for some other reason you have
a gun you don't want or a handgun that is not registered?
You can legally turn in a handgun and sell it and normally
for much more money than you can normally get from any "Gun
Buy Back Program.," Don't just give it to the police
for no money. I have a special page on HOW
TO TURN IN A GUN
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THEM LEGAL"?
If you need more information or want me to help you turn
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