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NY AWB and other laws NY Bill S08234 - History Evil forces gathered in the beginning
of 2000. Several NY State Senators thought that they could only be re-elected
if they passed more gun control laws. While a trial balloon was floated
by Sen. Morahan, gun owners were told that nothing was going to come
of it and not to worry. No NY State pro-gun groups were consulted when
the law was written up. Even some of the sections of the law that we
would have gone along with contain minor problems that make them unacceptable.
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NY's
Assault Weapons Ban impact after the end of the Clinton Federal AWB
ended.
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NY State Assault Weapon Ban
Assault Weapons Ban (several sections) 8/10/00 Sen. Morahan's office called Sen. Padavans office and they said that no guns are banned. The bill is only a copy of the federal law and does not ban any weapons. That is the same thing that Sen. Padavan's office told me when I talked to them just after the bill was passed Adding the "OR FUNCTIONING FRAMES OR RECEIVERS OF SUCH" phrase could present the the biggest anti-gun loophole in the future.
IMPACT OF NY'S AWB
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How we found out about NY's AWB (Background: The NY AWB in its final form had surfaced in Orange County early in the year out of Sen. Morahan's office. We were told that they were just looking at it and that nothing would come of it. After the AWB passed, Gov. Mario Pataki gave a speech at a MMM March touting his anti-gun laws, the highest ranking Republican/(RINO) to ever give a speech at a MMM event that I know of.) On March 15, 2000 sportsmen and women from across the state were in Albany meeting with our representatives as part of the Annual "March on Albany." It was during a meeting with Sen. Morahan and Sen. Larkin that we found out that Pataki was in NY City at the same time announcing his new gun laws. All of the representatives that we talked to were "Shocked" at the announcement and said that they knew nothing about it. (That would have been impossible.) |
CHANGES IN MAGAZINES
GLOCK
Note where the Caliber marking is and how it was moved up on the LEO and Post ban. |
Another telling feature of new mags is the 'smooth' or 'beveled' sides as compared to the older design with the shoulder. LEO or 10 round 'Clinton' mags can be either way. |
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Thanks to Butch from GLOCK
TALK for the pictures.
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CLICK her to see: Citizens for a Safer Community v. City of Rochester court ruling. CLICK HERE TO LINK TO SEE PART OF THE SENATE FLOOR DEBATE ON THIS SECTION
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CLICK HER TO LINK TO COURT RULINGS TO SEE WHY
WE CAN NOT FIGHT THIS IN THE COURTS.
S. 8234 A. 11535
EXPLANATION--Matter in ITALICS (underscored) is new; matter in brackets { } is old law to be omitted.
Adds to PL Sec 265.00. Definitions "FIREARM" to include ASSAULT WEAPON (Section 28, this act shall take effect on the first day of November next succeeding the date on which it shall have become a law;) |
Sec 265.00. Definitions. |
38 S 8. Subdivision 3 of section 265.00
of the penal law, as amended by
39 chapter 264 of the laws of 1988, is amended to read as follows: 40 3. "Firearm" means (a) any pistol or revolver; or (b) a shotgun having 41 one or more barrels less than eighteen inches in length; or (c) a rifle 42 having one or more barrels less than sixteen inches in length; or (d) 43 any weapon made from a shotgun or rifle whether by alteration, modifica- 44 tion, or otherwise if such weapon as altered, modified, or otherwise has 45 an overall length of less than twenty-six inches; OR (E) AN ASSAULT 46 WEAPON. For the purpose of this subdivision the length of the barrel on 47 a shotgun or rifle shall be determined by measuring the distance between 48 the muzzle and the face of the bolt, breech, or breechlock when closed 49 and when the shotgun or rifle is cocked; the overall length of a weapon 50 made from a shotgun or rifle is the distance between the extreme ends of 51 the weapon measured along a line parallel to the center line of the 52 bore. Firearm does not include an antique firearm. |
Sec 265.00. Definitions Adds ASSAULT WEAPON, LARGE CAPACITY AMMUNITION FEEDING DEVICE to subdivisions 8 & 9. (Section 28, this act shall take effect on the first day of November next succeeding the date on which it shall have become a law;) |
Sec 265.00. Definitions |
53 S 9. Subdivisions 8 and 9 of section 265.00
of the penal law, subdi-
54 vision 8 as amended by chapter 588 of the laws of 1972 and subdivision 9 55 as amended by chapter 462 of the laws of 1974, are amended to read as 56 follows: PAGE 7 1 8. "Gunsmith" means any
person, firm, partnership, corporation or
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Adds 3 new subdivisions to PL Sec
265.00. Definitions:
21. "SEMIAUTOMATIC" MEANS ..., 22. "ASSAULT WEAPON" MEANS ... (E) PROVIDED, HOWEVER, THAT SUCH TERM DOES NOT INCLUDE: ... (IV) A RIFLE, SHOTGUN OR PISTOL, OR A REPLICA OR A DUPLICATE THEREOF, SPECIFIED IN APPENDIX A TO SECTION 922 OF 18 U.S.C. AS SUCH WEAPON WAS MANUFACTURED ON OCTOBER FIRST, NINETEEN HUNDRED NINETY-THREE. ... (V) A SEMIAUTOMATIC RIFLE, A SEMIAUTOMATIC SHOTGUN OR A SEMIAUTOMATIC PISTOL OR ANY OF THE WEAPONS DEFINED IN PARAGRAPH (D) OF THIS SUBDIVISION LAWFULLY POSSESSED PRIOR TO SEPTEMBER FOURTEENTH, NINETEEN HUNDRED NINETY-FOUR. 23. "LARGE CAPACITY AMMUNITION FEEDING DEVICE" MEANS A MAGAZINE,
BELT, DRUM, FEED STRIP, OR SIMILAR DEVICE, MANUFACTURED AFTER
SEPTEMBER THIR TEENTH, NINETEEN HUNDRED NINETY-FOUR ..."
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Sec 265.00. Definitions |
11 S 10. Section 265.00
of the penal law is amended by adding three new
12 subdivisions 21, 22 and 23 to read as follows: 13 21. "SEMIAUTOMATIC" MEANS ANY REPEATING RIFLE, SHOTGUN OR PISTOL, 14 REGARDLESS OF BARREL OR OVERALL LENGTH, WHICH UTILIZES A PORTION OF THE 15 ENERGY OF A FIRING CARTRIDGE OR SHELL TO EXTRACT THE FIRED CARTRIDGE 16 CASE OR SPENT SHELL AND CHAMBER THE NEXT ROUND, AND WHICH REQUIRES A 17 SEPARATE PULL OF THE TRIGGER TO FIRE EACH CARTRIDGE OR SHELL. 18 22. "ASSAULT WEAPON" MEANS (A) A SEMIAUTOMATIC RIFLE THAT HAS AN ABIL- 19 ITY TO ACCEPT A DETACHABLE MAGAZINE AND HAS AT LEAST TWO OF THE FOLLOW- 20 ING CHARACTERISTICS: 21 (I) A FOLDING OR TELESCOPING STOCK; 22 (II) A PISTOL GRIP THAT PROTRUDES CONSPICUOUSLY BENEATH THE ACTION OF 23 THE WEAPON; 24 (III) A BAYONET MOUNT; 25 (IV) A FLASH SUPPRESSOR OR THREADED BARREL DESIGNED TO ACCOMMODATE A 26 FLASH SUPPRESSOR; 27 (V) A GRENADE LAUNCHER; OR 28 (B) A SEMIAUTOMATIC SHOTGUN THAT HAS AT LEAST TWO OF THE FOLLOWING 29 CHARACTERISTICS: 30 (I) A FOLDING OR TELESCOPING STOCK; 31 (II) A PISTOL GRIP THAT PROTRUDES CONSPICUOUSLY BENEATH THE ACTION OF 32 THE WEAPON; 33 (III) A FIXED MAGAZINE CAPACITY IN EXCESS OF FIVE ROUNDS; 34 (IV) AN ABILITY TO ACCEPT A DETACHABLE MAGAZINE; OR 35 (C) A SEMIAUTOMATIC PISTOL THAT HAS AN ABILITY TO ACCEPT A DETACHABLE 36 MAGAZINE AND HAS AT LEAST TWO OF THE FOLLOWING CHARACTERISTICS: 37 (I) AN AMMUNITION MAGAZINE THAT ATTACHES TO THE PISTOL OUTSIDE OF THE 38 PISTOL GRIP; 39 (II) A THREADED BARREL CAPABLE OF ACCEPTING A BARREL EXTENDER, FLASH 40 SUPPRESSOR, FORWARD HANDGRIP, OR SILENCER; 41 (III) A SHROUD THAT IS ATTACHED TO, OR PARTIALLY OR COMPLETELY ENCIR- 42 CLES, THE BARREL AND THAT PERMITS THE SHOOTER TO HOLD THE FIREARM WITH 43 THE NONTRIGGER HAND WITHOUT BEING BURNED; 44 (IV) A MANUFACTURED WEIGHT OF FIFTY OUNCES OR MORE WHEN THE PISTOL IS 45 UNLOADED; 46 (V) A SEMIAUTOMATIC VERSION OF AN AUTOMATIC RIFLE, SHOTGUN OR FIREARM; 47 OR 48 (D) ANY OF THE WEAPONS, OR FUNCTIONING FRAMES OR RECEIVERS OF SUCH 49 WEAPONS, OR COPIES OR DUPLICATES OF SUCH WEAPONS, IN ANY CALIBER, KNOWN 50 AS: 51 (I) NORINCO, MITCHELL, AND POLY TECHNOLOGIES AVTOMAT KALASHNIKOVS (ALL 52 MODELS); 53 (II) ACTION ARMS ISRAELI MILITARY INDUSTRIES UZI AND GALIL; 54 (III) BERETTA AR70 (SC-70); 55 (IV) COLT AR-15; 56 (V) FABRIQUE NATIONAL FN/FAL, FN/LAR, AND FNC; PAGE 8 1 (VI) SWD M-10, M-11, M-11/9,
AND M-12;
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Adds Politically Correct SUCH PERSON and deletes {HE} from 265.02
Adds (7) SUCH PERSON POSSESSES AN ASSAULT WEAPON; OR (8) SUCH PERSON POSSESSES A LARGE CAPACITY AMMUNITION FEEDING DEVICE. (Section 28, this act shall take effect on the first day of November next succeeding the date on which it shall have become a law;) |
Sec 265.02. Criminal possession of a weapon in the third degree. |
30 S 11. Subdivisions 4, 5 and 6 of
section 265.02 of the penal law,
31 subdivision 4 as added by chapter 1041 of the laws of 1974, subdivision 32 5 as amended by chapter 175 of the laws of 1981 and subdivision 6 as 33 added by chapter 378 of the laws of 1998, are amended and two new subdi- 34 visions 7 and 8 are added to read as follows: 35 (4) {He} SUCH PERSON possesses any loaded firearm. Such possession 36 shall not, except as provided in subdivision one OR SEVEN, constitute a 37 violation of this section if such possession takes place in such 38 person`s home or place of business{.}; OR 39 (5) (i) {He} SUCH PERSON possesses twenty or more firearms; or (ii) 40 {he} SUCH PERSON possesses a firearm and has been previously convicted 41 of a felony or a class A misdemeanor defined in this chapter within the 42 five years immediately preceding the commission of the offense and such 43 possession did not take place in the person`s home or place of busi- 44 ness{.}; OR 45 (6) {He} SUCH PERSON knowingly possesses any disguised gun{.}; OR 46 (7) SUCH PERSON POSSESSES AN ASSAULT WEAPON; OR 47 (8) SUCH PERSON POSSESSES A LARGE CAPACITY AMMUNITION FEEDING DEVICE. |
Adds to PL 265.10 ASSAULT WEAPON, LARGE CAPACITY AMMUNITION FEEDING DEVICE wording (Section 28, this act shall take effect on the first day of November next succeeding the date on which it shall have become a law;) |
Sec 265.10. Manufacture, transport, disposition and defacement of weapons |
48 S 12. Section 265.10 of the penal
law, subdivisions 1 and 2 as amended
49 by chapter 378 of the laws of 1998, subdivision 3 as amended by chapter 50 695 of the laws of 1987, subdivision 4 as amended by chapter 233 of the 51 laws of 1980, subdivision 5 as amended by chapter 3 of the laws of 1978 52 and subdivision 7 as amended by chapter 1041 of the laws of 1974, is 53 amended to read as follows: 54 S 265.10 Manufacture, transport, disposition and defacement of weapons 55 and dangerous instruments and appliances. PAGE 9 1 1. Any person who manufactures
or causes to be manufactured any
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Adds to PL 265.11 LARGE CAPACITY AMMUNITION FEEDING DEVICE, to selling, exchanges, gives or disposes (Section 28, this act shall take effect on the first day of November next succeeding the date on which it shall have become a law;) |
Sec 265.11. Criminal sale of a firearm in the third degree. |
40 S 13. Subdivision 1 of section 265.11
of the penal law, as amended by
41 chapter 310 of the laws of 1995, is amended to read as follows: 42 (1) sells, exchanges, gives or disposes of a firearm OR LARGE CAPACITY 43 AMMUNITION FEEDING DEVICE to another person; or |
Adds to PL 265.15, LARGE CAPACITY AMMUNITION FEEDING DEVICE, ... DEFACED LARGE CAPACITY AMMUNITION FEEDING DEVICE, to possession (Section 28, this act shall take effect on the first day of November next succeeding the date on which it shall have become a law;) |
Sec 265.15. Presumptions of possession, unlawful intent and defacement. |
44 S 14. Subdivision 3 of section
265.15 of the penal law, as amended by
45 chapter 219 of the laws of 1995, is amended to read as follows: 46 3. The presence in an automobile, other than a stolen one or a public 47 omnibus, of any firearm, LARGE CAPACITY AMMUNITION FEEDING DEVICE, 48 defaced firearm, defaced rifle or shotgun, DEFACED LARGE CAPACITY AMMU- 49 NITION FEEDING DEVICE, firearm silencer, explosive or incendiary bomb, 50 bombshell, gravity knife, switchblade knife, pilum ballistic knife, 51 metal knuckle knife, dagger, dirk, stiletto, billy, blackjack, metal 52 knuckles, chuka stick, sandbag, sandclub or slungshot is presumptive 53 evidence of its possession by all persons occupying such automobile at 54 the time such weapon, instrument or appliance is found, except under the 55 following circumstances: (a) if such weapon, instrument or appliance is 56 found upon the person of one of the occupants therein; (b) if such weap- PAGE 10 1 on, instrument or appliance
is found in an automobile which is being
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Adds to 265.20 LARGE CAPACITY AMMUNITION FEEDING DEVICE wording to items allowed by certain state employees. (Section 28, this act shall take effect on the first day of November next succeeding the date on which it shall have become a law;) |
Sec 265.20. Exemptions. |
20 S 15. Paragraph 2 of subdivision
a of section 265.20 of the penal law,
21 as amended by chapter 328 of the laws of 1986, is amended to read as 22 follows: 23 2. Possession of a machine-gun, LARGE CAPACITY AMMUNITION FEEDING 24 DEVICE, firearm, switchblade knife, gravity knife, pilum ballistic 25 knife, billy or blackjack by a warden, superintendent, headkeeper or 26 deputy of a state prison, penitentiary, workhouse, county jail or other 27 institution for the detention of persons convicted or accused of crime 28 or detained as witnesses in criminal cases, in pursuit of official duty 29 or when duly authorized by regulation or order to possess the same. |
Add to 265.20 a (8) ASSAULT WEAPONS, LARGE CAPACITY AMMUNITION FEEDING DEVICES, wording to allow manufacture and shipment for use by state and city and others. (Section 28, this act shall take effect on the first day of November next succeeding the date on which it shall have become a law;) |
Sec 265.20. Exemptions. |
45 S 16. Paragraph 8 of subdivision
a of section 265.20 of the penal law,
46 as amended by chapter 378 of the laws of 1998, is amended to read as 47 follows: 48 8. The manufacturer of machine-guns, ASSAULT WEAPONS, LARGE CAPACITY 49 AMMUNITION FEEDING DEVICES, disguised guns, pilum ballistic knives, 50 switchblade or gravity knives, billies or blackjacks as merchandise and 51 the disposal and shipment thereof direct to a regularly constituted or 52 appointed state or municipal police department, sheriff, policeman or 53 other peace officer, or to a state prison, penitentiary, workhouse, 54 county jail or other institution for the detention of persons convicted 55 or accused of crime or held as witnesses in criminal cases, or to the 56 military service of this state or of the United States. PAGE 11 |
11 Allows Police or peace officer to have FIREARM OR LARGE CAPACITY
AMMUNITION FEEDING DEVICE while on the job.
16 Excludes AN ASSAULT WEAPON in sections of PL 265.20 (Section 28, this act shall take effect on the first day of November next succeeding the date on which it shall have become a law;) |
Sec 265.20. Exemptions. |
1 S 17. Paragraphs 11 and 16 of
subdivision a of section 265.20 of the
2 penal law, paragraph 11 as added by chapter 498 of the laws of 1976 and 3 paragraph 16 as added by chapter 378 of the laws of 1998, are amended to 4 read as follows: 5 11. Possession of a {pistol or revolver} FIREARM OR LARGE CAPACITY 6 AMMUNITION FEEDING DEVICE by a police officer or sworn peace officer of 7 another state while conducting official business within the state of New 8 York. 9 16. The terms "RIFLE," "SHOTGUN," "pistol," "revolver," and "firearm" 10 as used in paragraphs three, FOUR, FIVE, SEVEN, seven-a, seven-b, nine, 11 nine-a, ten, twelve, thirteen and thirteen-a of this subdivision shall 12 not include a disguised gun OR AN ASSAULT WEAPON. |
AN ASSAULT WEAPON can not be added to a license under PL 400 (Section 28, this act shall take effect on the first day of November next succeeding the date on which it shall have become a law;) |
Sec 400.00. Licenses to carry, possess, repair and dispose of firearms. |
53 S 19. Subdivision 2 of section 400.00
of the penal law, as amended by
54 chapter 378 of the laws of 1998, is amended to read as follows: 55 2. Types of licenses. A license for gunsmith or dealer in firearms 56 shall be issued to engage in such business. A license for a pistol or PAGE 12 1 revolver, other than AN
ASSAULT WEAPON OR a disguised gun, shall be
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55 S 28. This act shall take effect immediately;
provided, however, that:
PAGE 16 1 1. Sections one
through three, six through nineteen and twenty-three |
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