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New record one week high of 191 hits for 2001 week 3 for
OCShooters Main Page.
I want to add a new topic, "What is wrong with the NY State
handgun laws." Please e-mail me your ideas.
Added links to White House, C-SPAN, C-SPAN 2 & 3 on LINKS
MAKE SURE THAT YOU USE
TO CALL THE SENATE IN SUPPORT OF
SENATOR JOHN ASHCROFT FOR AG
Sen. Schumer took the lead in some of the attack.
HERE FOR SOME COMMENTS FROM RUSH ABOUT THE HEARING AND 2ND AMENDMENT
HERE TO SEE WHO Michael Barnes of Handgun Control is per Rush
here for: EXTRACT OF KEY GUN TESTIMONY
ASHCROFT ATTORNEY GENERAL
HEARING SENATE JUDICIARY COMMITTEE (thanks to Neal Knox)
CLICK HERE FOR confirmashcroft.com/
CLICK HERE To cover the
hearings on C-SPAN viedo & audio
As far as Sen. Ashcroft's testimony is concerned, from
what I was able the hear it was very disappointing. He caved in all
the places that we would expect him to stand up and said that registration,
AWB and other point were OK. Senators on the pro-gun side did not
even question the head of HCI. Just remember that all elected officials
are going to be gun shy because of the election of anit-gun members and
the defeat of the pro-gun candidates that includes Sen. UpChuck Schumer
and Sen. H. R. C******
Living in Fear . . . . of gun-control laws
By Dave Kopel, Dr. Paul Gallant,
& Dr. Joanne Eisen of the Independence Institute
And write using the following address
letters or postcards, at least visit their web site.
|Sen. Hillary Rodham Clinton
SDB-40 Suite 6
Washington, DC 20510
(HRC does not have a web site yet.)
|Sen. Charles Schumer
313 Hart Senate Office Building
Washington, D.C. 20510
ALSO SUPPORT GALE NORTON, SECRETARY OF THE INTERIOR
Please contact your U.S. Senators today and urge them to support President-elect
George W. Bush's
nomination for Secretary of the Interior—Gale Norton. Throughout
her career, which includes two
terms as Colorado's Attorney General, Norton has supported the
interests of hunters and law-abiding
firearm owners, and now is the time to come to her aid. She is
under heavy fire by "radical environmentalist"
groups, as well as other groups that are not known for being
involved with environmental issues, such as the
NAACP and the AFL-CIO.
CLICK HERE TO
LINK TO ORANGE COUNTY SHOOTERS MAIN PAGE
SHAWANGUNK FISH & GAME ASSOC. INC.,
will be accepting application for memberships.
NYS Resident $125
NonNYS resident $175
plus a one time $100 initiation fee.
Call 469-2222 or 355-1002
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HAPPY NEW YEAR
I am still adding some things to my new computer
and trying to decide what to do with the problems of not enough space on
my web page and remaking the whole web page and breaking it down.
Some other things that are happening that will also take up some
of my time that I will let you know about when they happen. As you
would think, with first Sen. UpChuck Schumer and now Sen. H. R. C******,
gun owners are doing a very bad job at defending their rights in NY state.
We must do more.
Pres. C****** slinks out of the White House.
HERE TO READ HIS STATEMENT (THAT KEEPS HIM OUT OF JAIL)
I called Sen. H. R. C******'s office and they refused to make
any comment about this. What an embarrassment for the state.
CALL SEN. H. R. C******'S
REQUEST THAT SHE RETURN
THE ITEMS THAT WERE TAKEN FROM
AIR FORCE ONE
OF THE GIFTS THAT
CALL CONGRESS FOR FREE AT 800-839-5276
NEW YORK STATE
AOL merges with Time Warner, What impact will it have?
sets up web site that upsets HCI.
Mass. Killer had Mass. license
Dade County Fla. Vote
count goes to BUSH!
Senate power to be split 50/50
new trigger lock rule 17 and FAQ
to the book that said that the early Americans owned few guns
Criticized For NRA Membership
Guns Like Cars
CLICK HERE FOR NRL-ILA
NRA ALERTS &
The Firearms Coalition
Alerts Log, (http://www.nealknox.com/alerts/ )
Vallet's "My View" reply to the antihunting article in the T H-R
I am writing this in response to a “My
View” entitled “It’s Time to Abolish Sport Hunting” by Anne Muller (Nov.13),
and also to defend hunting and fishing as legitimate outdoor sports. In
her article Ms Muller says, among other things, that “98% of the population
oppose the killing of animals for recreation”. If that is her definition
of hunting, it is a simplistic and biased one, to be sure, and is designed
to elicit a desired response from people being surveyed. I would, however,
like to know where her 98% figure comes from!
Here are some figures that are real
and unbiased: 1) Almost 4% of the population of New York State purchases
a hunting license- right away there goes the 98% statement! - and this
is in a state with large urban areas. I’m sure that the percentage
is higher in more rural states. 2) A survey conducted by the U.S. Fish
and Wildlife Service (1996) found that 85% of the people in the United
States support hunting as long as the hunter makes use of the meat, and
I don’t know of any hunter who would kill a deer, or a duck, or a pheasant,
or a rabbit, etc. and just leave it in the field to decay. On of the main
reasons why we hunt is to enjoy the bounty of our days afield. Wild game
is nourishing and delicious and is free of hormones and antibiotics.
Ms Muller also states that the “problem”
(the quotation marks are hers - intended, no doubt, to indicate that no
problem exists) of overpopulation of certain species of wildlife in certain
areas is a fiction, and that complaints “are usually from unnamed persons”.
I would like some data on that! Why would people reporting a deer/car accident
or a bear in their backyard strive to remain anonymous? Also, Ms Muller
puts the word “complaint” in quotations, as if trying to say that they
are also a fiction.
Sport hunting is statistically among
the safest of all sports, with an accident rate lower than for bicycle
riding and swimming (in fact, you are 3 times more likely to have a fatal
accident while swimming than while hunting). Hunting is also a traditional
outdoor activity and is perfectly legal. Farmers and country people understand
this. They understand the cycles of life and death in nature, and they
have a greater appreciation of plants and animals and how they come to
provide food for each other and for human beings. Meat and poultry do not
just appear - neatly wrapped - in the display cases of supermarkets. The
animals taken by hunters have at least lived a more natural life in the
wild, and are harvested for use by the hunters who find them in their natural
I have found that most anti-hunters - unlike the farmers
and country people - have an unrealistic view of life in the wild. They
often tend to think that wild animals have human traits and feelings and
emotions (this is properly called anthropomorphism), but deer and other
animals do not think and respond and feel as humans do. Instead, their
lives are controlled almost completely by genetically endowed “instincts”
and behaviors. Their lives in the wild are also usually short and brutish,
by human standards. They do not just frolic about with their cuddly animal
friends in a warm, sunny Eden - thinking human thoughts and expressing
them in a human manner.
To Ms Muller, and to others who share
her sentiments, I also wish to say that real hunters and fishermen (What
about killing fish? They’re animals too. In fact they’re in the same taxonomic
phylum as deer and game birds! I’m sure that anti-fishing is next)
are not evil, uncaring, sadistic people. We are your friends and neighbors,
and we appreciate - and usually know a great deal about - wildlife and
the outdoors. We enjoy being a part of nature. We make every effort to
purge lawbreakers and unethical “outlaws” from our ranks. We were the first
Conservationists. John James Audubon and Aldo Leopold - two icons of the
environmental movement in this country - were both hunters. Hunters and
fishermen - through license fees and added taxes on their equipment - pay
for wildlife preservation and for acquiring habitat, and the lands purchased
through their fees can be enjoyed by all who love the outdoors.
We are intent to continue enjoying
the pursuit of fish and game, and to pass on the traditions of sport hunting
and fishing to the next generation. The Pine Bush H.S. program is an enormous
success, and other schools in the region are interested in starting similar
programs. There is nothing wrong with teaching outdoor sports such as fly-tying
and fly fishing, outdoor survival, bow hunting, and, yes, the proper and
safe use of sporting firearms. The program is voluntary, and is oversubscribed.
It is extremely popular. Ms Muller says “If popularity is the only criterion
for offering a course, then Pine Bush should consider a credit course in
pornography or getting high”. I will not respond to that statement, it
is too preposterous, and I hope that the reader agrees with me that Ms
Muller has gone way overboard here!
Outdoor sports and a conservation
ethic will benefit a young man or woman for the rest of his or her life.
Unlike football or soccer - which a person is unable to enjoy as a participant
as he or she gets older - hunting and fishing are lifetime activities.
Some people enjoy walking outdoors and merely observing. Others prefer
to participate on a more fundamental level - harvesting fish and game or
foraging wild plants and mushrooms. There is nothing wrong with either
approach, as long as laws are obeyed and respect is shown.
totals from Orange County Pistol Applications and Amendments.
The totals for new pistol applications and amendments
from 2000 are in and they show a small increase from 1999.
This is a small increase but it is still not in line
with the number of new people who are moving into Orange County.
The numbers still fall far short of the numbers of pistol applications
that were being issued just a few years ago. The higher number is
only 66% of the 1993 number of 569 but we have been as low as 308, (54%
of the 93 number) in 1998. (*I only have records back to 1993.)
Why the increase? Lots of NY
City Cops that have decided to retire and they live in Orange County.
2001 should set a record of new licenses of this type.
Strange visitor to my
The second week in Jan. I noticed a visitor to my web
page from http://condenast.com/
. It seemed a strange name but I checked it out and did not think
anything of it but the name did stick in my mind for some reason.
Today, 1/16/00, I happened to visit the DRUDGE
REPORT and found the article: MTV SNUBS BUSH; NO INAUGURAL PARTY PLANNED
AFTER CLINTON BLOWOUTS. The report included this line: "In '97, First
Lady Hillary Rodham Clinton was honored at the MTV/CONDE NAST "Pre-Inaugural
Cocktail Party" at the Corcoran Gallery of Art. Rep. Barney Frank and actor
partied together at the Corcoran, along with Sumner Redstone."
(I also found an additional article in the NY POST: 'ZINE
QUEENS AT WAR) I wonder if one of the Mags that Conde Nast owns
is going to do a hit article or if someone who works for them is looking
for a license.
1/24/01 The Village Voice Visit
I wonder why the http://villagevoice.com/
paid a visit to the NYSPRA and my web page? I wonder what is in the
Judge Carol Klein
takes oath of office
Congratulations to Family Court Judge Carol Klein.
She will be in office for the next ten years issuing pistol licenses.
Based on her record and on her promises in her run for office, we can expect
someone who will deal with handgun owners in a fair and unbiased manner.
We wish her the best in her new position.
Look up your favorite Criminal
Have you ever seen anyone arrested and wondered it it
was their first time? Now you can find out if the person was an inmate
in the NY Corrections Hotel System. I have added this link to the
web page at the bottom under "Non gun related Misc. web sites" Look
State Department of Correctional Services
Look up your
Mon. thru Sat.
2:00 a.m.-11:00 p.m. & Sun. 4:00 a.m. thru 11:00 p.m.
initiates lawsuit against Pataki and the State of New York
The SCOPE Board of Directors based on the findings of
the committee has retained legal counsel and is now in the early stages
of filing suit. Not surprising to anyone, litigating a case like this will
be quite costly, adding insult to injury we will be arguing against state
attorneys paid for by your tax dollars. In other words your tax dollars
will be used to convince a court that your Second Amendment rights should
be severely restricted.
Make no mistake about it, this will be a costly
but necessary venture. The Board of Directors of SCOPE fully appreciates
the magnitude of the task we are undertaking. SCOPE has prided itself as
being fiscally prudent, keeping our membership dues low, and limiting the
number of times we approach our members for additional funds.
This is one of those times when we must appeal for
your help. Whether as an individual, a club or your company we need your
financial support to pursue this lawsuit. We are asking you for the most
generous contribution you can make. The full weight of state government
is what we are up against, we can fight it with your help but we must have
Please be as generous as you can. Make your checks
SCOPE Legal Defense Fund
PO Box 602
Tonawanda NY 14151-0602.
TO SEE THE WHOLE PRESS RELEASE
It is very important that SCOPE gets the support that it needs and deserves
in the effort. Please support SCOPE, urge others to support SCOPE
and if you are a member of a club urge your club to support this lawsuit.
anti-gun bills in Assembly and Senate
New anti-gun laws covering the wish list of HCI and
other "BAN ALL GUNS" crowd are popping up like empty crack vials in a crack
house. Among the great ideas are arresting you if you have a bullet
in your pocket when you go to a "BUILDINGS USED FOR EDUCATIONAL
PURPOSES" including a school bus with the punishment also including
being "PERMANENTLY BARRED FROM THE LEGAL POSSESSION OF ANY FIREARM,
DANGEROUS WEAPON, DISGUISED GUN, EXPLOSIVE OR ANY COMPONENT THEREOF,"
Other bills would make it a crime to have a laser pointing device on a
ban all gun shows at any public owned public property; ban having any type
of gun within 1,000 feet of any school, municipal playgrounds and other
and the session is young.
HERE TO SEARCH USING THE WORD "FIREARM"
HERE TO SEARCH USING THE WORD "GUN"
HERE TO SEARCH USING THE WORD "RIFLE"
for the Gun DNA programs
FFLs got a copy of the regulation around the end of
December 2000 and I got a copy on 1/9/01. One of the test stations
will be in Middletown. It is too long to post on my web page and
most of it has to do with stuff that everyone knows. The new program
is called, COMBINED BALLISTIC IDENTIFICATION SYSTEM(CoBIS). They
have posted the FAQ's and the rule on their web page. (Look at the
bottom of the page for rule18.) On the web page they list a "Portable
Facility" but we will have to wait for further information about its operation.
Similar types of laws have impacted gun sales in Maryland and other new
rules in California and Mass. have almost stopped handgun sales in those
HERE TO LINK TO THE NYSP CoBIS Ballistic Databank Program WEB PAGE
HERE TO SEE THE ARTICLE IN MARYLAND, "Police hanging tough on gun law"
Womens Charity Shotgun Shooting Event to be Held in Dutchess County
The National Rifle Association's Women on Target shooting
program has scheduled 14 recreational charity shoots for this year. One
of the events will be held in Dover Plains, NY.
"Women on Target is pleased and excited to sponsor
another year of recreational charity shoots," says Stephanie Henson, manager
of the NRA's Women's Programs Department. "These events fulfill our two-fold
purpose of giving women a safe, enjoyable shooting experience and
raising money for a variety of good causes."
HERE FOR MORE INFORMATION June 2-3 - East Mountain Shooting Preserve, Dover
Plains, N.Y. (shotgun).
here for map
AOL merges with Time Warner, What impact will it have?
What impact will the AOL Time Warner merger have on
the freedom of the press and the press being on the side of the anti-gunners?
For those of you who do not know, anyone who had a gun related web site
on their AOL account got a nasty e-mail from AOL. The e-mail in summary
would say that your site had porno on it and had been removed from the
AOL server and if you put your site back up AOL would cut you off.
Can we expect more anti-gun stories on the TV and in the publications that
group sets up web site that upsets HCI.
The pro-gun rights organization, called the Center For
the Prevention of Handgun Violence, has an Internet URL of http://www.cphv.com.
The group also owns the domain names handguncontrol.net and cphv.net --
identical names to those of the gun-control sites, except those have .org
suffixes. HCI and CPHV are so upset that they are going to court
to block the pro-gun groups from using the same letters in their web address.
HERE TO SEE THE ARTICLE
Mass. Killer had Mass.
With laws so strict that Brown Bess Muskets that were
used in the American Revolution that are on display in a glass case in
the state capital building have to have custom trigger locks, the state
still can not figure out who is not allowed to own a firearm due to mental
illness. From the article:
Michael McDermott, who was charged with the Dec. 26 killings
at an Internet consulting company in suburban Wakefield, was able to obtain
and keep a state firearms identification card and legally buy at least
three of his four guns at stores in Massachusetts despite having been hospitalized
at least three times for severe depression, law enforcement officials and
his parents say.
HERE FOR A LINK TO THE WHOLE ARTICLE
Fla. Vote count goes to BUSH!
Boy this is a lot different that what we have been lead
to believe. Now it does not really matter and if it is not official
who cares but this is the opening of the article:
MIAMI -- George W. Bush would have gained six votes more than Al Gore
if all the dimples and hanging chads on 10,600 previously uncounted ballots
in Miami-Dade County had been included in the totals, according to a review
by The Palm Beach Post.
Senate power to be split
Because of the 50/50 split in the Senate you can expect
every anti-gun bill to make it to the Senate floor. Expect many of
them to pass and all of them that pass will be followed by speeches from
the anti-gunners containing phrases like, "The passage of this bill is
a good first step ... , but we need to do more for the children ..."
Schumer is already set to introduce new anti-gun
laws. "For the Children ..."
HERE TO SEE THE SCHUMER ARTICLE
HERE TO GO TO THE 1999 GUN TRACE REPORT BY THE BATF
here to see another article on multiple-handgun sales
Please note that in NYC all unregistered guns, (such
as guns in a home or store to be used for protection,) are "CRIME" guns
even if they are not used in a crime and only 45% of the guns found were
traced to identify the purchaser.
ROLL CALL has a good article on how old some of the Republican Senators
are and what the future holds.
here for the article.