Orange County Shooters
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APRIL 2004 Newsletter
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ORANGE COUNTY & LOCAL NEWS
NY STATE NEWS
by Jacob J. Rieper, Legislative Director New York State Rifle & Pistol Association
CoBIS or Gun "DNA" Watch
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NOTE: OCPL dinner scheduled for Saturday April 24 has been canceled.
More than 31,500 rounds were fired
by 54 participants representing 7 teams from Orange County and
the surrounding area. (Without one injury except to a few peoples
pride and egos.) Everyone had a good time even considering the
snow storms that we had to deal with.
The T H-R ran an editorial on March 4th that voiced their opinion against the bill that would end the frivolous lawsuites against gun makers and others. They did favor the renewal of the AWB and having a national background check at gun shows. I sent them an e-mail the same day that I wanted to be published in the MY VIEW section. After several weeks I called and they said that I had neglected to provide my address and phone number. (It was in the e-mail.) and then they said that they would publish it with out editing it. The published the letter but it was only 20% of the original size. When I called to complain, they said that they did not edit it and that was what I had sent them. (I do not see how I sent them what they printed but what can I do.) Below is their Original Editorial on March 4th, what I sent them on March 4th and what they published on April 6th.
The NY Senate passed
a bill that would allow Junior Archers to hunt
big game. Only 11 people in the NY Senate voted against it and
one of them was Orange County's own Thomas P. Morahan. Sen. Morahan
represents mostly Rockland but also represents Warwick and Tuxedo in
south-east Orange County.
The Orange County Sheriff's Office
is encountering problems with pistol permit applications. At present,
character reference forms are to be submitted notarized with
application. The Sheriff's Department has done some spot checks
on the notarizations, and
found that some notaries are notarizing the forms not in the
the signatory. This is a violation of law that the Department
of State does not tolerate, nor does the Sheriff's Department.
When submitting pistol permit applications,
please ensure that each character reference form is signed
the presence of a notary. The Sheriff's Office takes the issuance
of a pistol permit
very seriously, and will deny processing the permit if any
laws are broken
for convenience or to cut corners.
Elections are fast approaching and while everyone knows that they will be picking the next President, many people are going to be surprised who else they are going to be voting for. The process to select who will be running for the other various NY State and Federal offices has been going on for several months and the final selections will be made soon. Primaries will be made in Nov. but without the support, effort and work of many people, those who want to run for an office will not be able to get together a campaign to make it into the primaries. All of the usual elections will take place this year and it is too early to try to go into detail on most of them so I will only outline the most important. (I will be adding to this article through out the month so check back for more names and details.)
FEDERAL - We all know who is running for President, but Sen. UpChuck Schumer has to run and it looks like Orange County's own 97th District Assemblyman Howard Mills is going to be the Republican candidate. He has a very large uphill battle but it is possible.
COUNTY- NY ASSEMBLY - With Howard Mills having to give up his Assembly seat to run for the Federal Senate, that opens up a seat and several people will be running.
COUNTY - JUDGES - The
Hon. Stewart Rosenwasser took office in 2000 and issues pistol
of Blooming Grove, Hamptonburgh, Tuxedo, Warwick, Woodbury. He
been a great Judge, A++, but he wants to take a higher position
so he will be a candidate for state Supreme Court for the 9th Judicial
District. That will leave open a position for a new County Judge
and Orange County's District Attorney. Frank, (Francis,) D. Phillips,
who has held the office since 1986, has a lock on that position
on the Republican side if he wants it. (OCShooters has had reports
that he wants it and reports that he does not want it, I will try
to find out ASAP.) (OCShooters has not talked to Phillips about
his position on unrestricted licenses
but I did
see him give
a speech to some sports people when he was running for the DA position.
Phillips started talking about the gun problems in NY are caused
by the lax gun laws in other states. Not a very good start and
far from Rosnewasser's, "I have never know a robber to say that
he can't rob a bank because his restricted gun license does not
have a "... and to possess while going to and from robbing a bank,"
John S. Chambers has been a lead attorney in NYC and NY State for our 2nd Amendment rights. He now has a web site, http://www.pistolpermitattorneynyc.com/index.html If you live in NYC and need help you can contact him at his office at 89 Fifth Avenue, Suite 801, New York, New York 10003, (212) 645-5279
In June of 2001 NYC decided that it would
end issuing "Target" handgun licenses and would only issue "Premises"
licenses. Every license that was "Target" was reissued as a "Premises"
license when the license was renewed. While NYC decided that
they would allow a "Premises" license holder to take their handgun(s)
to a local "approved" range at any time and to travel in the state
for hunting, NY State law does not allow this so anyone with a
in NYC is banned and subject to arrest and having their guns taken
away from them if they are found outside of NYC with their guns
even at events like NY State's Empire Games. Many people thought
that it would be easy to get the courts to over
Departmen but it has not turned out that way.
I talked to Robert P. Firriolo,
Tim de Illy's lawyer, and he said that they are still trying to decide
if they will appeal this decision.
the new policy ended that pratice.
The Southeast Town Board wants to increase the distance from 500'
the distance from houses in which people are allowed to hunt and
firearms. The town will be asking Assemblyman Willis Stephens
Vincent Leibell to handle the necessary legislation in Albany.
Best quote from article:
Party honors Schumer
| I looked up the Lakewood
Rod and Gun Club and found out that it is not your
normal gun club. Look at the following link and you
will see what their restaurant and bar, in a 15,000
square-feet building, look like:
I called the club and from what I was told the rooms can be reserved by any member. The club has over 8,000 members and operates a private bar and restaurant in the building and also allows members to reserve rooms or the restaurant for events. The club would not normally have to approve who reserves the rooms and does not approve or disapprove awards that any group gives while using the building.
The local Democratic party was having some large meetings in the county at other locations and many local, state and national Democratic party people attended, Sen. UpChuck being one of them. Someone from the Independence Party who is also a member of the club reserved a small room for a $50 a person fundraiser/cocktail party. As part of his visit, UpChuck stopped by for a few minutes and was given the award.
Sen. UpChuck did stop by the restaurant and spoke over a mike and while he was welcome by some, their was grumbling by some who were in the restaurant at the time.
Again, the Lakewood Rod and Gun Club would not normally have to approve who reserves the rooms and does not approve or disapprove awards that any group gives while using the building.
A judge has ordered a hearing to determine if Nassau County's $200 fee for the issuance of a pistol license is unconstitutional. State Supreme Court Justice Burton S. Joseph in Pemberton v. Nassau, 2104-02, found an issue of fact existed as to whether the fee was based on a rational analysis of costs to the county. A group of residents disputed the county's argument that the expenses of running the police department's pistol license section exceeded the revenue from the fees, which were previously $40 for the issuance of a license and $25 for a renewal. Under the current fee system, implemented in 2000, the fees for issuance and renewal are each $200. The judge found that the residents presented "extremely credible evidence" to suggest that the county's costs did not match the more than 800 percent fee increase. Justice Joseph rejected the county's argument that the court could not review the fee because the State Legislature had authorized Nassau to utilize the fee as a tax. He reasoned that the regulation and issuance of a pistol license is an exercise of the state's police power, which is subject to review by the court.
Most Dutchess County lawmakers want no part of it. Neither do
some citizens, including David Warshaw, chairman of SCOPE, the
Shooter's Committee on Political Education. We don't put a price
on constitutional rights,” he said. “We don't charge
you for the words that you record here today and for the print
that you print out. We don't charge people for the size of the
sign that they have that protests the war or supports the war.
We likewise feel that people should not be taxed for exercising
the constitutional right to keep and bear arms.”
Legislator Mark Molinaro agreed a constitutional issue was at stake, but other legislators said it is simply opposition to the state finding yet another way of raising money at the expense of a particular group of citizens.
Four legislators opposed the resolution, including Joel Tyner, who said the cost of the proposed renewal would amount to only about 25 cents a day, something he says gun owners can afford.
Late reports from Albany indicate the State Senate is not likely to go along with Pataki's suggestion.
At the City Council's
April 21 meeting City Council Speaker
Gifford Miller (D-Manhattan) will introduce a bill that would
require guns sold or possessed in the city
to be "personalized" so
they can be fired by authorized adult users only.
Miller and the bill's co-sponsors believe fingerprint scanners and other high-tech
gizmos could be used to prevent guns from being fired by unauthorized users,
especially by children who discover guns in their homes and accidentally shoot
themselves or their friends.
"We know that there are sensible technologies that are right on the horizon that can reduce these terrible tragedies, that can eliminate the sorts of accidents that take young kids' lives," Miller, a possible mayoral candidate in 2005, said yesterday during a City Hall press conference unveiling the legislation. "I have no problem with the cost of guns going up, ... We should be making guns more difficult for people to have access to, not easier."
Smart-gun technology is currently not commercially available, so the bill wouldn't take effect until three years after the technology is first introduced on the market. The measure also includes exemptions for law enforcement officers and guns purchased before the legislation takes effect.
But gun owners on Staten Island believe the bill is another attempt to infringe on their rights to keep and bear arms. "They aim to disarm us," said Tony Castellano, membership director of the Staten Island Sportsmen's Club, which operates a trap-shooting range at 170 Bloomfield Ave., Bloomfield. Castellano argued that the bill, if enacted, would be ignored by criminals who own illegal guns. A crackdown on gun-toting criminals would accomplish the city's public safety goals without infringing upon the rights of law-abiding gun owners, he said. Other Island gun owners said the smart-gun devices envisioned by the bill either won't work or will be too expensive for the average gun-owner. "It's not feasible,"said one member of the Richmond Boro Gun Club in Charleston.
The NAACP lost a major
lawsuit last year in July when a Judge
Dismissed NAACP Lawsuit Against Gun Makers. (With major
funding from George Soros.) The dismissal was a surprise to
many because the NAACP had Judged shopped
and found one of the most liberal
and activist judge
that anyone can find. An advisory jury in the NAACP case found
unanimously for 38 of the industry defendants and found for
defendants by a vote of at least 10 of the 12 jurors, and
in 23 additional instances the jury failed to come to a decision.
Not a single defendant was found to be either intentionally
or negligently responsible for a public nuisance the NAACP
claimed. Even so, many expected the Judge to ignore the "advisory
jury's" decision and to find against some of the gun makers.
At a conference in Albany, representatives from some of the 77 of the NAACP NY chapters decided their state wide agenda. Guess what is important to them? You guessed it, being able to prosecute gun dealers whose firearms are used in crimes if the gun dealer has not followed all of the rules that the NAACP thinks that they should do.
Mills starts campain against Sen. UpChuck
starts new online live video show and news
Larry Craig Speaks Out On NRA Board Position
Senator Craig (R-Idaho) responds to critics regarding his position
on the NRA Board of Directors and displays once again why he is
the leading defenders of gun owners` rights in America