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ORANGE COUNTY & LOCAL NEWS
 Middletown gunners finish 8th in ROTC National Tournament Middletown Jr. gunners finish 8th in ROTC National Tournament
Black Rock Flea Market a Success, SCOPE Gives Black Rock Award Black Rock Flea Market a Success, SCOPE Gives Black Rock Award
Davis Shooting Sports having special Smith & Wesson Firearms Event Davis Shooting Sports has special Smith & Wesson Firearms Event
Federal court issues temporary stay on Stewart Drury Lane project Federal court issues temporary stay on Stewart Drury Lane project SPARC looses fight to stop interchange on Drury Lane SPARC looses fight to stop interchange on Drury Lane, Will appeal

Update on Letters to the Editor at the Times Herald-Record about two Middletown Gun Show arrest Update on Letters to the Editor at the Times Herald-Record about two Middletown Gun Show arrest

Rudy Vallet Youth Fishing Derby A GREAT SUCCESS Rudy Vallet Youth Fishing Derby A GREAT SUCCESS

NY STATE NEWS

New York State Rifle & Pistol Association endorses candidates New York State Rifle & Pistol Association endorses candidates announces RPA-PAC meeting in September
NRA in NYC to cover UN- IANSA NRA in NYC to cover UN- IANSA NRA in NYC to cover UN- IANSA
Major changes to hunting season dates Major changes to hunting season dates
SCOPE AND CLUBS CHALLANGE NY'S GUN SHOW BACKGROUND CHECK AND CoBIS SYSTEM SCOPE AND CLUBS CHALLANGE NY'S GUN SHOW BACKGROUND CHECK AND CoBIS SYSTEM
NY's CoBIS or "gun DNA" program breakers 100,000 with no crimes solved.
New Yorkers Against Gun Violence promotes AW Ban New Yorkers Against Gun Violence promotes EXPANDED AW Ban

NATIONAL NEWS

NRA cancelled 2007 meeting in Columbus, Ohio NRA cancelled 2007 meeting in Columbus, Ohio
NRA News' Ginny Simone in car accident NRA News' Ginny Simone in car accident
West Palm Beach, Fla. West Palm Beach, Fla. "Gun Buy-Back Program" pays $75 for $5,000 rare rifle
Columbus, Ohio passes expanded Assault Weapons Ban Columbus, Ohio passes expanded Assault Weapons Ban
Senate moving to protect gun industry but Larry Craig and Dianne Feinstein strike deal on Firearms Manufacturers Protection bill, S 397 Senate moving to protect gun industry but Larry Craig and Dianne Feinstein strike deal on Firearms Manufacturers Protection bill, S 397
I am glad the Supreme Court never took up CA's Assault Weapons ban. Why I am glad the Supreme Court never took up CA's Assault Weapons ban.
LINKS ONLY
McCreary County, Kentucky v. ACLU, (Funny the press never talked about this was a ACLU lawsuit.) After petitioners, two Kentucky Counties, each posted large, readily visible copies of the Ten Commandments in their courthouses, ... Make sure you read Justice Scallia's dissenting opinion on page 45 of the PDF file. Kelo v. City of New London, The city’s proposed disposition of petitioners’ property qualifies as a “public use” within the meaning of the Takings Clause. ... Make sure that you read Justice O'Connor's O’CONNOR, J., dissenting opinion starting on page 27 of the PDF file. Justice Thomas' opinion is on page 40
Ithaca Gun Forced to Close Its Doors: Company Owes Hundreds of Thousands of Dollars In Debt.
The Post Standard/Herald-Journal (NY)
June 22, 2005
House Votes to Repeal D.C. Gun Restriction; Measure Would Curb, Law That Requires Arms Kept at Home to Be Nonoperating, Spencer S. Hsu, The Washington Post, July 1, 2005, "The U.S. House of Representatives voted overwhelmingly yesterday to repeal one of the District's gun restrictions, prohibiting the city from spending funds to enforce a law that requires any firearms kept at home to be unloaded and disassembled or bound by a trigger lock."

CoBIS or Gun "DNA" Watch
CLICK HERE TO SEE THE FULL REPORT

DATE
# OF GUNS
CHANGE
MONEY SPENT
# OF CoBIS "Hits"
6/1/05
101,839
 2,968
$17,333,333 +?

0

7/1/005
104,340
 2,501
$17,666,666 +?

0

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ORANGE COUNTY NEWS

 Middletown gunners finish 8th in ROTC National Tournament Middletown Jr. gunners finish 8th in ROTC National Tournament
CLICK HERE FOR THE WHOLE ARTICLE IN THE T H-R
T H-R, JULY11, 2005, BY KEVIN WITT

     Local teen shooters who are members of the Middletown Navy Junior Reserve Officers Training Corps team placed eighth at the National Guard Bureau Junior Air Rifle National Championship in Louisville, KY in June. Nick Bertucci, Jenna Hansen, Amanda Borrero, Kevin Lake, Taruna Bhagwandeen and Chris Roche were part of the team where the boys and girls compete against each other.
     "The Middletown program has been around 12 years, all under the guidance of Willard. It has dominated locally at the high school level, winning seven of the last nine Section 9 championships, according to Willard.
Middletown placed second in the state meet this year at West Point. The team hopes to shoot in a Canadian tournament some time soon.
     A military connection is not necessary to compete, as only some of Middletown's competitors have are NJROTC-affiliated."

Black Rock Flea Market a Success, SCOPE Gives Black Rock Award Black Rock Flea Market a Success, SCOPE Gives Black Rock Award

     Several hundred people showed up for Black Rock's Flea Market. They are hoping to start having the Flea Market twice a year. Once in the Summer and another indoors at their club house in the winner. They had many good deals from club members who take this chance to sell clothing, ammo, lots of fishing and hunting/shooting stuff that they don't need or want to sell to get something else. They also had enough household and other types of items to keep everyone including kids interested. (I got a box of Winchester 32 cal ammo for $5. )

SCOPE at BLACK ROCK FLEA MARKET

     Orange County Chapter leader Mike Kubow, George, Joe and Ralph manned the table at the flea market selling the Raffle Tickets for the Ted Nugent & Sunrize Acres Jurassic Pork Hunt. We also were doing a 50/50 to pay for the table. As part of the event, Mike Kubow presented the SCOPE Sponsorship Award given to clubs who are members of SCOPE and who go above and beyond the Club Membership requirement. Carmen Heitzman, BR Club President and Frank Allison accepted the award.

With a little help from our friends, Casey was the winner of the 50/50

   
 

Davis Shooting Sports having special Smith & Wesson Firearms Event Davis Shooting Sports has special Smith & Wesson Firearms Event

     Davis Shooting Sports had S&W 460 a special event on Friday and Saturday, 7/22-23. Smith & Wesson Firearms reps John Dragonette and Jeffrey Coroze arrived with cases of S&W and Walther guns to shoot and to answer questions about their firearms and offer some very special deals. Among the handguns they brought for license holders to shoot included the new S&W 460 and their S&W 500. Many people showed up to try out the different gun, to bring in guns for John and Jeffrey to look at and just to swap stories. More events like this one are planned for the future.

Left to Right John, Ted, Jeffery & Doug
John and Jeffery are from S&W
S&W 500 goes BOOM!!!
Click on the picture to see it full size
     Ken was the one shooting the S&W 500 above and got a real big KICK out of shooting it.

UPDATE: Wed. July 27, 2005
CLICK HERE FOR THE WHOLE ARTICLE

Part of an article: Stewart pitches Teterboro overflow, from midhudsonnews.com
     "In other news at yesterday’s Stewart Airport Commission, Stewart Park and Reserve Coalition President Sandra Kissam said that while the Drury Lane entrance project will be back in court on August 2, she is willing to negotiate a deal to end the hold up if the state would be willing to compromise on route of the new roadway network from Interstate 84."

UPDATE: Friday, July 15, 2005
Federal court issues temporary stay on Stewart Drury Lane project Federal court issues temporary stay on Stewart Drury Lane project
CLICK HERE FOR THE MidHudsonNews.Com ARTICLE

     A US District Second Circuit Court of Appeals judge has issued a temporary stay preventing on any construction work on the I-84/Drury Lane entrance into Stewart Airport. This is the latest effort by the Stewart Park and Reserve Coalition and its co-plaintiffs to stop the project as it is designed.
     SPARC attorney John Caffrey told MidHudsonNews.com yesterday that he will be back in court on August 2 to argue a motion for an injunction.
     Caffrey said the state had agreed not to begin any work until after the August 2 nd court appearance, so the judge simply formalized it with his temporary stay.
     “It is encouraging because it’s as if the court were to say, ‘we accord this issue the respect it deserves,’” said SPARC President Sandra Kissam.
     The decision is a “temporary set back,” said John D’Ambrosio, president of the Orange County Chamber of Commerce. “I think ultimately, those of us who are in the development community who want to build a reasonable, intelligent airport will ultimately get the road in.” D’Ambrosio said airline officials have said they want and need the road in order to bring service to Stewart. “I think ultimately we will win.”

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SPARC looses fight to stop interchange on Drury Lane SPARC looses fight to stop interchange on Drury Lane
Will appeal
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Stewart road plan gets OK
Opponents vow to appeal
By Craig Wolf, Poughkeepsie Journal, Friday, June 24, 2005

     NEW WINDSOR — Backers of a road planned into Stewart International Airport rejoiced Thursday at news a judge had declared them winners in the current round of a lengthy legal fight. But the people bringing the lawsuit to protect adjacent open space said they're not done yet and will take the fight back to the next level of federal courts as soon as they can. Meanwhile, this is developing into something of a horse race. The state Department of Transportation is reviewing bids it opened June 9 with a deadline of July 25 to decide. And the plaintiffs, led by Stewart Park and Reserve Coalition, plan to not only push their appeal of an earlier negative decision but to ask the Court of Appeals for an injunction while that court reviews their case "We're very pleased that the decision went the way it did," said Jennifer Post, spokeswoman for the DOT..
      Different reactions Stan Morse, of the Marstan Travel agency in Millbrook, hailed the ruling by Magistrate Judge Randolph Treece in Albany federal District Court. "I think it's wonderful. This is just one more step in that march," he said. The $50 million road into Stewart and link to Interstate 84 is expected to attract more airline service, for which Morse has been a booster..
      "I'm far from feeling discouraged," Sandra Kissam, president of the coalition, said Thursday. "We're going to go as quickly as we can and bring action to the Court of Appeals to have an injunction applied pending our appeal." In the case brought by the coalition, the Sierra Club and the Orange County Federation of Sportsmen's Clubs, the court ruled that the road agencies should have studied the road's impact on lands west of the airport used for recreation for about 30 years. The DOT went back and, rather than do a full review, shifted the planned road 30 feet to the east, a solution Treece accepted. The coalition asked him to reconsider that, pointing to discovery of purple milkweed, a "species of special concern," but he demurred, deferring to the state agencies, the DOT and the Department of Environmental Conservation.
      "In essence, the plaintiffs' wish for this court to embrace their experts and substitute their considered opinions over the considered opinions of the defendants (DOT) as how to best address the purple milkweed population," Treece wrote. "This is an impermissible desire."

Update on Letters to the Editor at the Times Herald-Record about two Middletown Gun Show arrest Update on Letters to the Editor at the Times Herald-Record about two Middletown Gun Show arrest

      I sent a Letters to the Editor at the Times Herald-Record about two Middletown Gun Show arrest about the way they reported the story. CLICK HERE TO SEE THE MY LAST STORY
   Last month two people were arrested at the Middletown Gun show trying to avoid the NY State required background check that is done when all guns are sold at NY gun shows. Why the two gun sellers failed to have the check done is unknown. NY State Police checked the background of the two private sellers and one buyer and none were criminals and all could legally own the guns. One can only speculate that they were trying to avoid the $25 cost of the check. The promoters of the Gun Show and employees should be commended for contacting the NY State Police about the violation. They run a tight ship and everyone who attends the show knows that bending or breaking of any of the laws or rules is not allowed.
     Contrary to what T H-R reporter Christian M. Wade wrote in his article, the gun show is not an “open market for unscrupulous sellers.” I called Mr. Wade and asked him where he got the “open market” from and he told me that he had made it up. I called Sgt. David Scott of the NY State Police who was quoted in the article and he told me that he said no such thing and that did not understand how the reporter got that impression. Sgt. Scott said “that was not the case nor do we feel that way, " and that the Middletown Show was a "very well run gun show."
     I am glad that the T H-R covered the arrest however I wish the reporters would stop making up quotes and focus on facts such the two sellers were arrested for a misdemeanor violation of NY state law, not federal law and the shows are held 4 times a year, not three as reported in the article.

     As you can guess, the Letter to the Editor person kicked the letter up to the City Editor's desk and when I finally was able to get in touch with her she said that she had gone over the story with the reporter and his notes and would not print a letter if it contained the, "I called Mr. Wade and asked him where he got the “open market” from and he told me that he had made it up." line. She changed it to something like, "I disagree with the reporters comment that the gun show was an "open market." We will have to wait and see what they finally print.
     I know of one other person who also wrote a letter and I will copy that when it is printed.
     I hope that some other people send in a letter supporting the gun show. They do a lot for us and now is the time that we can do something for them. The next show is on Sept. 10th & 11th.

UPDATE 7/10/05
This is what they finally printed

Gun show: tight ship
     In May, two people were arrested at the Middletown gun show trying to avoid the state-required background check that is done when all guns are sold at New York gun shows. Why the two gun sellers failed to have the check done is unknown.
     New York State Police checked the background of the two private sellers and one buyer and none were criminals and all could legally own the guns. One can only speculate that they were trying to avoid the $25 cost of the check. The promoters of the gun show and employees should be commended for contacting the New York State Police about the violation. They run a tight ship, and everyone who attends the show knows that bending or breaking of any of the laws or rules is not allowed.
     Contrary to what the article said, the gun show is not an "open market for unscrupulous sellers." I called Sgt. David Scott of the New York State Police, who said the Middletown show was a very well-run gun show.

Rudy Vallet Youth Fishing Derby A GREAT SUCCESS Rudy Vallet Youth Fishing Derby A GREAT SUCCESS

     FISHING DERBY -On May 15th, 2005 the Orange County Federation of Sportsman's Clubs, along with the County Seat Conservation Club, hosted their Annual Youth Fishing Derby. As a special tribute, the O.C.F.S.C. renamed this day the Rudy Vallet Youth Fishing Derby. This year 495 children between the ages of 5-14 were registered. The O.C.F.S.C. presented a check for $2,080.00 to the family of Rudy Vallet. Present to accept the check were family members Claude Vallet, Jean Paul Vallet and Nicole Vallet. The check is a donation from the member clubs in the Federation and was donated to the Rudy Vallet Scholarship Fund. We'd like to thank all of the volunteers who donated their time to help out and we would like to thank Region 3 Senior Aquatic Biologist, Leslie Surprenant, who took time out of her very busy schedule to help out at the First Annual Rudy Vallet Youth Fishing Derby. Leslie was able to supply the Federation with some educational materials for the kids and also set up several live displays for the kids to enjoy. Thank you Leslie .


NEW YORK STATE NEWS

New York State Rifle & Pistol Association endorses candidates New York State Rifle & Pistol Association endorses candidates
announces RPA-PAC meeting in September

     We are pleased to give endorsements to the following candidates:
Orange County, County Legislature District 14, Ralph Caruso (R)
Ontario County, Canandaigua City Council Ward 1, Doug Finch (R)
Rockland County, County Legislature District 5, Ed Day (R)
Additional personal contributions may be directed to:

Citizens for Ralph Caruso
15 Depalma Drive
Highland Mills, NY 10930
Douglas E. Finch
1616 DeSeyn Drive
Canandaigua, N.Y. 14424
Friends of Ed Day
2 Capral Lane
New City, N.Y. 10956-3507
http://electday.com

     We will be holding our first RPA-PAC fundraising dinner on September 17 at the Mid-Hudson Civic Center with the proceeds going to support additional pro-gun candidates. NRA Executive Director Wayne LaPierre and NRA VP John Sigler are confirmed speakers. We should begin selling tickets this coming week.
Jacob J. Rieper, Legislative Director
New York State Rifle & Pistol Association

NRA in NYC to cover UN- IANSA NRA in NYC to cover UN- IANSA NRA in NYC to cover UN- IANSA
CLICK HERE TO SEE IANSA'S TALKING POINTS

     "What is IANSA? ( http://www.iansa.org/ )       The International Action Network on Small Arms is the global network of civil society organizations working to stop the proliferation and misuse of small arms and light weapons."
     And what do you think its goals are? These are two:

  • Establishing laws and regulations governing the ownership of small arms, including licensing and registration arrangements, along with promotion of the political will and technical capacity to enforce those laws in a transparent and impartial fashion;
  • Reducing the availability of weapons to civilians in all societies;

     So they think that by keeping us from having any guns for any reason in the US it will end the killing of people around the globe by dictators, terrorist, criminals and others. You have no right to own a gun and no right to use one for defense. If a dictator or group is committing genocide, IANSA is on the side of those committing genocide. IANSA supports banning the supplying of guns to those being killed because it might destabilize the situation.
     So you think that they are a small group and can not do anything? IANSA has more than 500 participant groups in nearly 100 countries and are supported by the UN, many countries and people like George Sorus and they also get millions of dollars from anti-gun governments like Britain and Japan who are among the many nations who are more than willing to approve any UN gun treaty that they can. Some of the IANSA members are from the very same repressive countries and where the genocides are taking place. Places where you get killed for supporting anything or anybody that the dictator or government does not like. While talking about being "transparent" IANSA has closed meeting where only the anti-gun members can go.
     The Coalition to Stop Gun Violence, the Legal Community Against Violence along with the Million Mom March / Brady Campaign to Prevent Gun Violence are all members of IANSA. (This is the web address of other anti-gun, leftist, socialist, pacifists groups in America that are members, http://www.iansa.org/about/members/namerica.htm#usa ) These are also the groups that would also support and urge an anti-gun President and US Senate to sign an IANSA/UN international treaty that would ban you from owning any guns for any reason.
     So you don't think that IANSA members can impact anything in the US? Closing Illegal Gun Markets, MODEL LAW, ASSAULT WEAPONS, BAN was written by The Coalition to Stop Gun Violence (CSGV), (originally the National Coalition to Ban Handguns,) and was copied almost word for word as NY's own A2466, S5504, this year's assault weapon ban that was pushed by NYAGV. The City of Columbus, Ohio passed an “assault weapons ban” in July of 2005 based upon a model provided by the Legal Community Against Violence. This is also essentially a copy of A-2466, S-2445A, and S-5504. On LCAV's web site, ( http://www.lcav.org/library/model_laws/Assault_Weapons.pdf ) acknowledges the work of CSGV's Educational fund to Prevent Gun Violence "in developing a model assault weapon ban."
CLICK HERE TO READ NY's Assault Weapons Ban, A2466, Right from Washington, DC and San Francisco, CA. NY's Assault Weapons Ban, A2466, Right from the UN via Washington, DC and San Francisco, CA.

Cam & Company from NRANews.com cover IANSA



John, Cam, Mike & Dennis
in Times Square after the show.

     The NRA is a registered as an NGO or "non-governmental organizations" with the UN. That is how they are able to attend meeting and know some of what is going on at the UN so they can tell you. The NRA sent Cam and crew up to the SIRIUS Satellite radio headquarters in NYC’s Rockefeller Center to cover the meeting. It was four days of travel and hard work for the crew and would defiantly qualify all of them for an award for "going above the call of duty."
     If is was not for them and the NRA, you would not know about IANSA and what they plan for us. I am sure that your local news outlets have never covered the story and if they did they would not tell you what IANSA's real plans of disarming you are.


I was able to hang out with the crew for a short time after work.
This is a picture of John, Cam, me and Mike
Thanks to Dennis for taking the picture.

Listen to NRANews.com every day live on:
SIRIUS Satellite radio from 3 PM to 5 PM EST, and rebroadcast of the full 3 hour show from from 5AM 8AM. or
NRANews.com on the internet for the full show from 3PM to 6PM EST and streaming rebroadcast any time. The NRANews.com website also has a large ARCHIVE that has many important speeches, videos, and other features that are worth viewing including several covering NRA Past President Charlton Heston. The site also features some videos that feature speeches of some of the people you love to hate such as Sen. UpChuck Schumer and Rosie O'Donnell.


BILLBOARD IN TIMES SQUARE

Major changes to hunting season dates Major changes to hunting season dates
from DEC website

This is a summary of significant changes for 2005/06. Check the guide for other minor changes such as season dates

Big Game Season Changes in the Southern Zone for 2005:

     The opening day of the Southern Zone regular deer season has been changed from Monday to Saturday. The season will close on a Sunday. This change allows young hunters and others who are unable to take time off from work or school to hunt on opening day. DEC hopes this opportunity will be actively embraced by young hunters. Other changes include opening the archery season on the third Saturday in October, and extending the late archery and muzzleloader seasons to nine days.
      Also, a pilot program to expand the age structure of the buck population will be implemented in two Wildlife Management Units (WMUs) located primarily in Ulster County. This new harvest strategy will require that bucks taken in WMUs 3C and 3J have at least three antler points on a side to be legal. Young hunters, under the age of 17, would be exempt from the three point requirement.

Specific changes are as follows:

  • Early Archery Season - First Saturday in October after Columbus Day to the day before the Regular Season.
    For 2005: October 15 through November 18;
  • Regular Season - Third Saturday in November for 23 days. Closes on a Sunday.
    For 2005: November 19 - December 11 (includes four weekends);
  • Late Archery and Muzzleloader Seasons - First day after the close of the regular season running for nine days.
    For 2005: December 12 - December 20 (Any remaining tags are valid);
  • Antler Restriction Pilot Study - WMUs 3C and 3J (all seasons). Limits harvest of antlered deer to those with at least three antler points on one side. Smaller antlered bucks cannot be taken. Hunters under the age of 17 are exempt and may take a buck with an antler or antlers measuring three inches or more in length;
  • Black Bear Regular Seasons
    Catskill Range: November 21 - December 11
    Allegany Range: November 26 - December 11

SCOPE AND CLUBS CHALLANGE NY'S GUN SHOW BACKGROUND CHECK AND CoBIS SYSTEM SCOPE AND CLUBS CHALLANGE NY'S GUN SHOW BACKGROUND CHECK AND CoBIS SYSTEM
CLICK HERE TO SEE THE WHOLE ARTICLE

Gun-show law questioned
Judge considers whether it's so broadly worded it affects even breakfasts
Gary Craig Staff writer Democrat and Chronicle, Rochester, NY.

     (July 8, 2005) — A federal judge on Thursday questioned whether a state law governing gun show transactions may be so broadly worded that it could affect pancake breakfasts or other similar events sponsored by gun clubs.
      A lawsuit filed last year by local sporting clubs attacks various pieces of New York's gun control statutes, including one section designed to govern firearms sales at gun shows.
      Under the law, any gun show must be prepared to provide background checks on possible gun buyers. The show operator can otherwise face civil penalties up to $10,000.
      Scott Garretson, the attorney representing the sporting clubs, said the statute simply defines a "gun show" as an event where gun owners gather. That definition could apply to pancake breakfasts, pig roasts, political rallies or 4-H events sponsored by a gathering of "gun owners," Garretson said.
      Assistant Attorney General Charles Steinman said the state Legislature's intent clearly was not to place onerous restrictions on gun club events that have nothing to do with gun sales.
      He maintained that the Attorney General's Office would not pursue action against other events.
      "There's no valid purpose in regulating pancake breakfasts," Steinman said.
      U.S. District Judge Charles Siragusa answered that he must consider what the statute says, not how the current attorney general may interpret it.
      "It sounds silly, but (the statute) could encompass a pancake breakfast, regardless of the attorney general saying, 'We're not going to prosecute,'" Siragusa said.
      The lawsuit also challenges the state CoBIS, or Combined Ballistic Identification System, which requires that most new handguns sold in the state be test fired so the state can file specific ballistics information into a database.
      Opponents say the technology is not yet refined enough to work, and that citizens who buy and sell guns legally are entered into the state database even though they have no connections with crimes.
      The Shooters' Committee on Political Education, or SCOPE, the Camillus Sportsman's Club and the Yates County Federation of Conservation Clubs sued Gov. George Pataki and other state officials.
      GCRAIG@DemocratandChronicle.com

CLICK HERE FOR A PREVIOUS MAY 10, 2004 ARTICLE

NY's CoBIS or "gun DNA" program breakers 100,000 with no crimes solved

DATE
# OF GUNS
CHANGE
MONEY SPENT
# OF CoBIS "Hits"
6/1/05
101,839
 2,968
$17,333,333 +?

0

7/1/005
104,340
 2,501
$17,666,666 +?

0

CLICK HERE TO SEE OCSHOOTERS FULL CoBIS REPORT

     After more than 4 years and between $12,000,000 to over $17,000,000 spent, NY's "gun DNA" program has yet to get one hit using it's system. Even the people who were against the program when Gov. George Pataki included it in his 2000 "gun control package" are amazed that the program has not produced even one hit.
     The only "hit" the program has had came when a loophole was found in the law that prohibits the CoBIS program from using data in another federal program, NIBIN, a program that collects data from known crime guns. This "hit" however pointed out the problem with the system. The shell casings were picked up off the street after the police got a "shots fired" call. When the match was finally made, the statue of limitations on the misdemeanor crime had already expired and the police had already taken the gun away from the owner for other reasons.(This "hit" is still in question because a FOIL request brought back a reply that they did not have any information on the "hit.")
     At a time when we really need to put all of our police to good use, we have the whole staff of this program taking pictures of shell casing from legal guns owned by licensed gun owners from across the state. Even if the staff had been writing parking tickets, they would have been able to solve more crimes that the CoBIS program. The people who work for the State Police are dedicated and hard working and should be thanked for their work and while everyone wish that we had some magic program that would solve crimes and catch criminals, this does not look like the program. I am sure that no one is more disappointed in the program than those people who are working for the program but they should not despair, the anti-gunners in the Senate and Assembly want to expand the program to include the all long guns and a bullet from any gun that does not eject a shell.

CLICK HERE TO READ OCSHOOTERS.COM SPECIAL COBIS REPORT

New Yorkers Against Gun Violence promotes AW Ban New Yorkers Against Gun Violence promotes AW Ban

CLICK HERE TO SEE PAST RELATED STORIES ABOUT THIS AW BAN
NY's Assault Weapons Ban, A2466, Right from Washington, DC and San Francisco, CA. NY's Assault Weapons Ban, A2466, Right from the UN via Washington, DC and San Francisco, CA.
A2466, bill to expand Assault Weapon to include almost all semi-autos and pump guns NY Assemblyman John W. Lavelle wants your guns, Sponsors A2466, bill to expand Assault Weapon to include almost all semi-autos and pump guns and end "grandfather clause"
CLICK HERE FOR A JPG OF THE PRESS RELEASE

     One of the standard anti-gun ploys is to send out a petition to police chiefs, mayors, and others asking support for some anti-gun legislation. The letter states that the anti-gun legislation will ban only bad guns that criminals use so everyone should sign the petition and support the legislation. Then when all of the forms come back the anti-gun group issues a press release saying that XX number of people support the legislation. What the anti-gun groups never do is to inform the people who they ask to sign the petition what the real impact of the bill will be or who actually wrote the bill that they are promoting, or release, as part of their press release, a copy of the petition, how many they sent out and how many responded.
     That is exactly what New Yorkers Against Gun Violence has done with a petition in support of A2466, S5504 and A2837. A2466 & S5504 relate to banning the possession, sale or manufacture of assault weapons by expanding the definition of what an assault weapon is. A2837 bans, (again,) exploding ammo and "Armor piercing ammunition" as any ammo that contains "CERAMICS, OR POLYMER PLASTICS ". It also bans "FRANGIBLE AMMUNITION" that is "ANY AMMUNITION WITH A PROJECTILE OR PROJECTILE CORE COMPOSED OF HYBRID MATERIALS, EITHER PRESSED TOGETHER AT HIGH PRESSURE OR GLUED TOGETHER WITH ADHESIVES, WHICH IS CAPABLE OF BEING USED IN PISTOLS OR REVOLVERS AND IS DESIGNED TO FRACTURE OR DISINTEGRATE UPON IMPACT" or in other words many of the most popular hunting and personal defense rounds. Even some of the new "Green" environmentally friendly non lead ammo would be banned.
     NYAGV has a copy of their press release on their web site at http://www.nyagv.org/Press%20Releases/June%2016%202005%20awb%20leo%20release.htm,
but they fail to have a copy of the petition or who signed it posted on their web site and their press release does not even mention ammo bill. (They really don't want people to know who signed the petition.)

New Yorkers Against Gun Violence
Working to Reduce Gun-Violence Since 1993

     The following list of 60 Police & Sheriffs's departments from around New York State have been secured by New Yorkers Against Gun Violence, as part of its ongoing Law Enforcement Outreach (LEO) Project to strengthen New York State' s Assault Weapons Ban and expand the definition of armor piercing ammunition. The list of departments/names below have provided a signed resolution in support of these measures (A.2466), (S.5504) & (A.2837)

As of June 16, 2005

City of Albany Police Dept.
Amherst Police Dept.
Village of Amityville Police Dept.
City of Amsterdam Police Dept.
Town of Bethlehem Police Dept.
Binghamton Police Dept.
Town of Carmel Police Dept.
Town of Cheektowaga Police Dept.
Cooperstown Police Dept.
Town of Fishkill Police Dept.
Village of Frankfort Police Dept.
Village of Fredonia Police Dept.
Freeport Police Dept.
Garden City Police Dept.
Geneva Police Dept.
Germantown Police Dept.
Glens Falls Police Dept.
Glenville Police Dept.
City of Gloversville Police Dept.
Village of Great Neck Estates Police Dept.
Guilderland Police Dept.
Village of Hamburg Police Dept.
Hempstead Police Dept.
Johnson City Police Dept.
Kensington Police Dept.
City of Lackawanna Police Dept.
Lake Placid Police Dept.
Liberty Police Dept.
Village of Lowville Police Dept.
Lynbrook Police Dept.
Malone village Police Dept.
Town of Mt. Pleasant Police Dept.
Nassau County Police Dept.
Town of New Castle Police Dept.
New Rochelle Police Dept.
Town of New Windsor Police Dept.
Ogdensburg Police Dept.
Old Westbury Police Dept.
City of Olean Police Dept.
City of Oneida Police Dept.
Port Washington Police Dept.
Quogue Village Police Dept.
City of Rochester Police Dept.
Village of Southampton Police Dept.
City of Tonawanda Police Dept.
Town of Tonawanda Police Dept.
Watertown Police Dept.
Town of West Seneca Police Dept.
Franklin County Sheriff
Genesee County Sheriff
Montgomery County Sheriff
Niagara County Sheriff
Oneida County Sheriff
Otsego County Sheriff
Westchester County Dept. of Public Safety

     I have called several of the people listed and most of them are just anti-gun and would really like to ban most semi-automatic firearms. I asked several questions including, "Did you know that this bill would ban handguns used in the Olympic competition?" "Did you know that this bill would ban many handguns and long guns that are used in other competition across the state including the NY State Empire Games and the CMP Program?" Did you know that this bill was written by an anti-group from Washington D.C. that was originally called National Coalition to Ban Handguns?"
     Most of the people that I talked to ended up really upset with me for calling them and ended up hanging up on me even though I was nice and was just questing them about what they knew about the bill. None of them really knew anything about the bill other than it would ban "assault weapons." When I asked one person the Olympic and state/CMP competition question all he could say was he did not know anything about the guns that were used and would not make a comment. One person that I talked to did seem a little embarrassed by the end of our discussion or at least worried that signing the list might cost him some votes.
     The worse thing is that none of the people who I have talked to could really discuss any specific aspects of this bill and were totally unaware that many of the guns that we normally use in competition and hunting would be banned and that we would not be able to sell or give away the guns or even used them in self defense if someone was breaking into our home.

THIS IS NOT GOING AWAY!!
HERE IS WHAT YOU CAN DO.

     This bill did not pass the NY Senate this year but you can bet that it will be back, promoted and paid for by the anti-gun groups and foundations. The first thing that the guy in Sen. Padavan's office said when I talked to him was that he had a list of 60 Police/Sheriff Department that supported the bill. It did not matter to him that the people who signed the resolution did not know what the impact of the bill would be. We have to do more this year.
     These Police Chief's don't think that anyone will know that they signed NYAGV's resolution. Let them know that you know and let you local clubs and County Federations know that a local Police Chief or Sheriff signed a resolution that would ban guns they use in target shooting, hunting and to protect their family. Call your Chief or Sheriff and ask them about the bill and why they signed the resolution. Ask them if they feel that NYAGV took advantage of them by not informing them of the REAL impact of the bills. Call up anyone who is running against them and make it an issue in the next election. Send in a letter to the editor in your local newspaper.
     An important question is that NYAGV's letter listed only the police/sheriff departments. Did the people who signed the resolution know that they were signing for their whole department and do they have the authority to do so?

IT IS UP TO YOU TO MAKE THE CALLS AND WRITE THE LETTERS.
WE ARE NOT PAID LOBIEST LIKE ANDY PELOSI, THE HEAD OF NYAGV
WE DON'T GET THOUSANDS OF DOLLARS FROM LIBERAL ANTI-GUN FOUNDATIONS.


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NRA cancelled 2007 meeting in Columbus, Ohio NRA cancelled 2007 meeting in Columbus, Ohio
Comments from NRA Executive Vice President Wayne LaPierre

     Two months ago, I was pleased to announce that the National Rifle Association chose the great city of Columbus to host our 136th annual meetings and exhibits in May of 2007.
      Today I’m here to announce that the convention is cancelled. The NRA is not coming to Columbus in 2007.
   The convention is canceled because last week your city council voted unanimously to revoke the constitutional rights of law-abiding citizens in Columbus by banning perfectly legal firearms.
      Councilman Michael Mentel led the gun ban. He said the NRA “isn’t going to dictate the policies of this city.” But Michael Mentel certainly wants to dictate the policies of the U.S. Constitution for the people of Columbus.
      Michael Mentel and your city council have embarrassed this great city in the eyes of the nation. By declaring that citizens who live inside its city limits have less freedom than people outside its city limits.
      So, thanks to the Columbus City Council, sixty-five thousand people will not be coming to your wonderful Greater Columbus Convention Center in 2007.
      Hundreds of exhibitors won’t fill your grand halls with the latest in guns, hunting and outdoor gear.
      Even though half the U.S. population lives within 550 miles of Columbus, they won’t be packing their families to come spend money with your hotels, motels, restaurants, airlines, cabs, buses, retailers or attractions.
      The only thing the city council can expect out of their decision is the gratitude of those businesses in the city we go to instead.
      Thanks to your Columbus City Council, at least twenty million dollars of new tourist revenue will not boost the economy of Columbus in 2007.
     You’d think a city council would do their homework. You know — find out if their gun-ban scheme worked anywhere else before they turn good citizens into criminals overnight.
      The U.S. Congress already tried this exact same gun ban. Nationwide. For ten straight years. That’s enough time to learn if it works, right?
      It was such a miserable failure that after ten years they called it off last September. And since they ended the gun ban, crime has gone down!
      But your city council thinks they’re smarter than the U.S. Congress, and didn’t learn a thing from that failure.
      Your city council didn’t learn that semiautomatic guns are not assault weapons. They are not machine guns.
      They didn’t learn that semiautomatics are not high-powered, they can’t spray bullets, and they’re not used in 99% of all gun crime.
      Your city council didn’t learn that their ban includes guns owned by thousands of honest Columbus hunters and sportsmen — who won’t react well.
      And your city council didn’t learn how voters react to politicians who abuse their Second Amendment freedoms — like Al Gore, John Kerry and Tom Daschle.
      Finally … this is an unnecessary loss and embarrassment for the people of Columbus. It’s also proof for state lawmakers that it’s time to protect lawful gun owners by making firearm laws uniform across Ohio. So that radical rogue agencies like this city council can’t create a confusing and dangerous patchwork of firearms laws.
      The NRA is going to work with the people of Columbus and the Ohio Legislature to pass state preemption legislation and restore freedom to the people of Columbus.
      When the Ohio Legislature enacts preemption, freedom will be restored to the people of Columbus.
      And when freedom comes back to Columbus, we will come back to Columbus.
      Thank you

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West Palm Beach, Fla. West Palm Beach, Fla. "Gun Buy-Back Program" pays $75 for $5,000 rare rifle

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     A "Gun Buy-Back Program" horror story out of West Palm Beach, Fla. highlights one type of problem that these programs have. In West Palm Beach, the guy ended up getting back his rifle but that is only because the press reported the story and the police department got pressure to return the gun. This is the only time that I have see that someone got a gun back, no matter how rare or how much money it was worth.
     I have seen stories of police replacing guns with a high value that they have taken in with junk guns or just stealing the guns. I have also see stories of police walking down a line of people waiting to go in and offering to buy the gun for the "Gun Buy-Back " price and then taking the gun for themselves.

Rare Japanese rifle ends up in buy-back program
By DON JORDAN
Cox News Service
Friday, July 15, 2005

Arisaka Type 99 pressure test rifleWEST PALM BEACH, Fla. — He bought it for two packs of Chesterfield cigarettes. He sold it for a $75 Target gift card.
      But World War II Navy veteran Bruno Filippelli never knew the Japanese rifle that collected dust in his closet for 60 years was a bona fide wartime treasure.
      He turned it over to West Palm Beach police Saturday during the city's gun buy-back program, and the rare and valuable firearm — better suited in a polished museum or with a wealthy weapons collector — now lies alongside 450 other submitted shotguns, handguns and assault rifles in the department's evidence storage room.
      "I feel like an idiot," said Filippelli, 79, four days after selling the rifle and just a few hours after discovering its worth.
      And police say they're not giving it back. In fact, the gun could soon be melted down and destroyed with the others.
      The controversy over the rare gun erupted when a picture of Filippelli turning over the rifle appeared in the Sunday edition of The Palm Beach Post. A Palm Beach police officer recognized the rare rifle, researched the gun and then delivered the bad news to Filippelli Wednesday.
      "He told me, 'If I was you, I never would have turned it in,' " Filippelli said.
      The gun, an Arisaka Type 99 pressure test rifle, is one of less than 100 ever produced. There are as few as 50 left, including about 20 in the United States, according to gun experts and dealers. The type of rifle was never used in the field. It was designed to test the chamber pressure and bullet velocity for the Type 99 rifle, which Imperial Japanese forces widely used throughout World War II.
      Although the gun is not listed in most price guides, a piece in good shape could be valued by as much as $5,000, said Bob Adams, a rare-gun collector and firearms dealer in Albuquerque, N.M.
      Adams, who sells Japanese rifles through mail orders and the Internet, said destroying the gun "would be a crime." He said West Palm Beach police should have identified the gun as a pressure test rifle that would not be used in violent crimes and should have never accepted it.
      "That was a grave disservice to the guy that owned it and the whole collecting fraternity," Adams said. "That gun is history, and destroying history does not help the street crime problem."
      The ultimate fate of the rifle is still up in the air, police officials said Thursday.
      Police still need to determine if it is authentic, and then donate it to an interested museum or destroy it with the others in the near future, said West Palm Beach police Lt. Chuck Reed, adding that a museum has contacted the department in reference to the gun.
      Either way, police will not return the gun to Filippelli, said Reed, adding that returning it would defeat the purpose of the program, which was to get guns off the street.
      "No matter the value of any of the guns, we're not going to resell any of them," he said.
      Fred Honeycutt has catalogued the gun, along with many others, in his book, "Military Rifles of Japan," now in its fifth edition. The retired engineer spent two weeks researching the book in Japan, where he met the gun's designers.
      The Japanese produced the pressure test rifles in small amounts, and it is not known how many were assembled, said Honeycutt, whose wife spotted the picture of the gun in the newspaper.
      "I didn't want it destroyed," he said. "It belongs in a museum."
      Honeycutt contacted the police, and when they told him to find an interested museum, he contacted the National Firearms Museum in Fairfax, Va., he said.
      "[The police department's] mission is noble and they do have a purpose, but this gun doesn't really belong in that effort," Honeycutt said.
      Doug Wicklund, a senior curator at the National Firearms Museum, said the museum has two of that particular rifle, and he knows of a couple more at other museums around the country, but that's about it.
      "You could probably count on fingers and toes how many you have left in the U.S.," said Wicklund, adding that he wouldn't try to appraise the gun because he's never heard of one being sold before. "They were not something the average soldier would have in his tent with him."
      Filippelli, originally from Brooklyn, N.Y., said he spent nearly two years at war, including six months on a light cruiser patrolling the waters around the Japanese islands. The cruiser often faced attacks from Japanese kamikaze pilots, but "knocked out a few airplanes," in that time, he said.
      Just days after the Japanese surrendered on board the battleship USS Missouri in Tokyo Bay in September 1945, Filippelli purchased the gun and a Japanese saber at a small shop in Tokyo.
      He said the rifle "struck him" because of its strange shape and how heavy it was. It was marked with an insignia and the serial No. 47.
      "You could buy anything for a couple packs of cigarettes," he said.
      On Thursday, Filippelli visited the West Palm Beach police department and met with a police officer, but had no luck retrieving the weapon.
      The officer showed the World War II veteran his gun, and Filippelli showed the officer his initials — BJF — engraved on the bottom of its barrel, he said.
      The ordeal has been disappointing, but Filippelli said he hopes the rifle's final battle will be won, and it will escape the melting pot and be exhibited in a museum.
      "I'd feel really good about that," he said. "I'd hope I'd get some connective recognition with it for bringing it over from Japan.
      "That's all I'm asking for."

WPB police return rare rifle
By Don Jordan, Palm Beach Post Staff Writer
Friday, July 15, 2005
UPDATED: 6:36 p.m. July 15, 2005

      Sixty years after he helped the United States defeat Japan in World War II, Navy veteran Bruno Filippellicq won a small battle of his own Friday.
      The 79-year-old Delray Beach man retrieved the rare Japanese rifle he turned in to West Palm Beach police Saturday for a $75 Target gift card, as part of the department's gun buy-back program.
      Filippelli didn't realize his rifle could be worth as much as $5,000, according to one rare gun collector.
      The Arisaka Type 99 pressure test rifle was set to be melted down and destroyed, along with about 450 other firearms collected by the police last weekend.
      "I feel like a kid again," said Filippelli, on his way into the department to pick up his rifle. "It's like Christmas in July."
      The week-long debacle began when a picture of Filippelli and the rifle appeared in Sunday's edition of The Palm Beach Post. The picture prompted local collectors and gun aficionados to contact police and request that the gun be spared from destruction.
      The rifle is one of less than 100 ever produced. Gun experts and dealers say as few as 50 left, including about 20 in the United States.
      On Thursday, officials from the National Firearms Museum in Fairfax, Va., called the West Palm Beach police department and asked about acquiring the rifle, West Palm Beach police Lt. Chuck Reed said.
      The final decision came down to Chief Delsa R. Bush, who eventually decided to make "a rare exception to the rule" and return the gun with Mayor Lois Frankel's blessing.
      Bush said police had to verify that the gun was Filippelli's, but were convinced once they examined the man's initials - BJF - engraved on the underside of the rifle's barrel. Filippelli was not asked to return the gift card, Bush said.
      "He can keep it," she said. "Tell him it's a gift from the city for being a veteran."
      As of Friday, Filippelli said he hadn't used the gift card.
      He said a secretary in the mayor's office informed him of the good news, but asked him to "keep it cool" when dealing with the press. City spokesman Elliot Cohen said he talked with the secretary, who said she didn't tell Filippelli to try to avoid media coverage.
      Filippelli served in the Navy for 22 months during World War II, including six months on patrol in the waters around Japan. He purchased the rifle in a Tokyo store for two packs of Chesterfield cigarettes, just days after the war ended.
      Filippelli said he kept the gun in his closet for 60 years, unaware of its rarity. When he heard that West Palm Beach was conducting a buy-back program to curb violence, Filippelli wanted to get involved, he said.
      But Friday morning, the teary-eyed veteran walked into the lobby of the West Palm Beach police station, filled out a form and left with the weapon he once brought from across the Pacific.
      He said he felt sorry for troubling the police, but was happy to have his rifle back. He has a new appreciation for the gun, which will eventually be given to a museum, Filippelli said.
      "It reminds me of what I went through in the war, and the people who died over there," he said. "I'm going to hold on to it and hug it for a while."

Columbus, Ohio passes expanded Assault Weapons Ban Columbus, Ohio passes expanded Assault Weapons Ban
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     The City of Columbus, Ohio passed an “assault weapons ban” in July of 2005 based upon a model provided by the Legal Community Against Violence. The Columbus, Ohio City Council to ban a wide range of semiautomatic firearms that allows current owners to keep their guns if they are registered but they can not give or sell their guns unless they die and then the Assault Weapon can be transferred if the new owner registers them. But this is not your fathers Assault Weapon Ban. This is a greatly expanded ban that includes many non-Assault Weapons by expanding the definitions that are used to define what an Assault Weapon is. They at a: ""Large capacity magazine" means a box, drum, clip or other container which holds more than twenty rounds of ammunition to be fed continuously into a semi-automatic firearm, except a magazine designed to hold only .22 caliber rimfire cartridges."
     One other change is that under the new law a: ""Automatic firearm" also means any semiautomatic firearm designed or specially adapted to fire more than thirty-one cartridges without reloading, other than a firearm chambering only .22 caliber short, long, or long-rifle cartridges."
     
(From the PRO web site) "The ordinance becomes law 30 days after the July 11 passage. City residents then have 90 days to either get rid of any firearms they suspect might fall under the new law, move them out of the city or register them with Columbus officials. PRO is advising that firearms be moved and stored outside of the city until this matter is resolved. We do NOT recommend registering your lawfully owned firearms with city officials since doing so will prevent you from selling them to others or willing them to your heirs, under the terms of the new law." The bill is not expected to be vetoed by the mayor however it will wind up in court.
     The Legal Community Against Violence (www.lcav.org) took full credit for the passage of the bill and besides writing the law they also showed up to testify for its passage. You can go on their web site to see their press release.

Senate moving to protect gun industry but Larry Craig and Dianne Feinstein strike deal on Firearms Manufacturers Protection bill, S 397 Senate moving to protect gun industry but Larry Craig and Dianne Feinstein strike deal on Firearms Manufacturers Protection bill, S 397

     Only a few more days are left until the US Congress August Recess and it is expected that the "bill to prohibit civil liability actions from being brought or continued against manufacturers, distributors, dealers, or importers of firearms or ammunition for damages, injunctive or other relief resulting from the misuse of their products by others" will come to a vote before the recess. The bill is a a tort reform bill that will stop state and municipal lawsuits and the anti-gun rights trial lawyers hoping to cash in on them. NY State and the bill passed by NY City this year, The Gun Industry Responsibility Act , are some of the main reasons that this bill is needed. (Also see Judge Dismisses NAACP Lawsuit Against Gun Makers and AG Spitzer looses again, appeals court dismisses suit against gun makers.)
     The NRA-ILA has a web page, Help Stop Reckless Lawsuits Against the Firearms Industry, that covers the topic and has sent out alerts asking members to contact their Senators to support the bill without amendments.
     Last year the bill passed but was then killed by its supporters because "poison pills" amendments were added to the bill by anti-gun zealot senators. One amendment that passed would have extend for 10-years the Assault Weapons ban, (52 - 47,) and some others would have required the provision of a child safety devices, would have required background checks at all gun shows,(53 - 46,) and provided a special exemption from the bill for law enforcement officers.
     Things look good for the bill this year and with the addition of 4 Republican Senators and some Democrats who are pro-gun or who do not want to have an anti-gun vote, it does not look like the "poison pill" amendments will pass or if they do pass, the amendments will be taken out in conference with the House version of the bill but all is not well.
     According to a story on THE HIGH ROAD, Reuters is reporting "Larry Craig and Dianne Feinstein strike deal on S 397."

"We hope we can defeat amendments and keep the bill clean except for the one amendment I agreed to let Senator Feinstein pass.," Craig said in a brief interview. ... she said she would try to limit sales of powerful 50 caliber weapons so that they could only be sold through federally licensed dealers, not at gun shows." "Senator Craig said he would vote for my sniper rifle bill if that is all I offered. I really don't like the underlying bill but it's probably the only way to get restrictions on ultra deadly sniper weapons. I accept Senator Craig's compromise. If it passes the senator has assured me he will fight to keep it even in conference"

I am glad the Supreme Court never took up CA's Assault Weapons ban. Why I am glad the Supreme Court never took up CA's Assault Weapons ban. My 2cents

     In Kelo v. City of New London, our Supreme Court held that, "The city’s proposed disposition of petitioners’ property qualifies as a “public use” within the meaning of the Takings Clause." Private Property as we know it has now ended and many states, cities, towns, and counties will be taking advantage of this new power.
      On December 1st, 2003 the Supreme Court Refuses to Hear Second Amendment Case, Silveira v. Lockyer, that asked the court to rule on whether or not the Second Amendment applies to the States and whether or not it is an individual right. California's ban on certain semi-automatic rifles was also challenged. Now I am very, very glad that they did not take up the case. If the Supreme Court can rule in such a crazy way in Kelo v. City of New London, one can only imagine how they would have ruled on the Siveira case. (CLICK HERE TO SEE KEEP AND BEAR ARMS PRESS RELEASE.)
     I can not put it better than Justice Thomas in his dissenting opinion, (on page 58 of the PDF file,):

     The Court relies almost exclusively on this Court’s prior cases to derive today’s far-reaching, and dangerous, result. See ante, at 8–12. But the principles this Court should employ to dispose of this case are found in the Public Use Clause itself, not in Justice Peckham’s high opinion of reclamation laws, see supra, at 11. When faced with a clash of constitutional principle and a line of unreasoned cases wholly divorced from the text, history, and structure of our founding document, we should not hesitate to resolve the tension in favor of the Constitution’s original meaning.

     One can imagine this dissenting opinion being at the end of a ruling finding that the Right to Keep and Bear Arms is only a state right except with "Right to Keep and Bear Arms: instead of "Public Use Clause" and the reference to some other Justices "high Opinion" of gun laws listed and deriving their finding on "Prior cases" that are in error.

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