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JUST BECAUSE YOU WILL NOT SEE THIS ANYWHERE ELSEAlleged letter to Zarqawi suggests dissent in Iraq Al Qaeda ranks (DPA) 6 August 2005 BAGHDAD - A letter allegedly written by a member of Al
Qaeda in Iraq to its country head Abu Mosab Al Zarqawi suggests that there
was dissent in the ranks of fighters operating out of Mosul, according
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Peter Jennings Born: 7/29/1938 Birthplace: Toronto, Canada Aug. 7, 2005— ABC News Anchor Peter Jennings died today at his home in New York City. He was 67. On April 5, Jennings announced he had been diagnosed with lung cancer. National news anchor of ABC's World News Tonight. By the age of nine Jennings had his own radio show, and though he dropped out of high school he went on to become America's youngest national network anchor (1964) ever. When lousy ratings got him demoted to correspondent, he covered stories around the globe until he was reinstated as anchor in 1983. |
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CBS used picture of Sen. UpChuck Schumer shooting a TEC-9 for anti-gun article in 2001 I just came across some interesting
trivia. In 2001, CBS did a story
on a ruling by the CA Supreme Court that victims cannot sue weapons manufacturers
for damages when criminals use their products illegally in the case of
Merrill
v. Navegar. In 1993 a mentally disturbed man killed eight people and
wounded six in a CA law firm with two TEC-DC9s and a revolver before killing
himself.
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Don't think that they are not out to get us in Orange County NY!!! This is a recent GOOGLE
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The Orange County Senior Games are going to have Trap Shooting at Shawangunk Fish and Game Club on September the 27th starting at 10 AM and going till around noon. You will have to pay a small fee but it should be fun and it is a chance to show them how much support the shooting sports have in Orange County. You only have to be 55+ to shoot and you don't have to be an Orange County resident to sign up. CLICK HERE TO DOWNLOAD THE APPLICATION |
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August 02, 2005 The
U.S. Senate recently produced a miracle when it passed bill S.397. The
bill, which passed last week by a 65-31 vote, provides the gun industry
with protection against frivolous lawsuits.
Of course, the loudest voices were from
those opposed to this important bill.
Why? For starters, the anti-gun/hunting
lobby has a vested interest in making gun manufacturers responsible for
crimes committed by thugs who use them to kill or maim others. For too
many years, gun manufacturers have been at the pointed end of a legal
barrel, all designed to bankrupt this industry.
Let's see how this works. A criminal obtains a gun, sometimes illegally,
and commits a crime using it. Criminal gets caught and goes to jail. Gun
manufacturer lands in court because some anti-gun organization decides
that they, too, are guilty of that same crime.
Millions of dollars and countless hours
are tied up in court cases like this all over the U.S. If you applied
the same logic to other industries, say car manufacturers, then every
time a person was killed in a car accident, through no fault of the automobile
but rather the drivers themselves, then someone would try to make the
car manufacturer responsible for that accident.
Use the same level of legal intensity that
is being brought to bear against gun makers and you'd drive the auto industry
to its knees.
Interestingly enough, if you look at S.397,
it doesn't shield the gun industry from lawsuits designed to hold them
accountable for the quality of their product. Despite what you hear from
the anti-gun lobby, S.397 allows those who are injured due to mechanical
failure of the product to sue the gun maker.
The operative word here is frivolous. Frivolous,
in that anti-gun/hunting groups are trying to hold gun makers responsible
for crimes committed by criminals.
Zell Miller, former Democratic governor and U.S. Senator from Georgia,
said it best recently: "How did we arrive where we are today with
these predatory lawsuits? I believe, that in large measure, it's because
the gun prohibitionists in this country have failed. They have been unable
to convince the people's elected representatives that law-abiding citizens
will somehow be safer if they are universally disarmed.
"To counter this failure, the gun-ban
crowd has formed a tripartite alliance with big city mayors who lack the
will to get tough with the criminals who prowl their streets and with
greedy trial lawyers who seek big paydays."
Hudson Valley gun owners need to let their
senators and congressmen know that the gun industry shouldn't be drawn
into lawsuits based on the criminal actions of thugs in the streets. This
process of trying to "rule by lawsuit" has no happy ending for
anyone. Next time you're on the range or out in the field, you should
remember that.
David Dirks' outdoors column appears Tuesday in the Times Herald-Record.
Write to him at P.O. Box 87, Westtown 10998, or by e-mail at dirksoutdoors@hotmail.com.
The Brady Campaign are planning a fundraising
event in New York City this fall.
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Edward
Cox would be a much better choice and I hope that he can give
Pirro a run for her money for the nomination because you do have to
get nominated first however he does not look like a Mario Pataki RINO
Republican so we will have to see what happens. Ed Cox on the 2nd Amendment: “Every law-abiding citizen who wants to own a gun should be able to do so. I grew up in a family of hunters. More gun laws are not the answer to gun-related violence. We need to enforce the laws we have already. Any additional gun legislation must make sense from a law enforcement standpoint and fit squarely within the framework of the Second Amendment.” (While not a 100% pro gun statement is much more moderate that what Pirro has to offer. PS the 2nd Amendment does not have anything to do with hunting.) |
Opponents of S. 397, Protection
of Lawful Commerce in Arms Act claimed that it was a special law ending
law suites for gun makers and sellers, an immunity not offered to other
businesses however in the same week Congress also passed the Transportation
act that shields car leasing companies in NY from law suites when a car
that they are leasing is involved in an accident. This Federal law was
needed because NY's Assembly Speaker Sheldon Silver refused to allow a
law to be passed in NY that would have ended New York's 80-year-old vicarious
liability law holding leasing companies liable for unlimited damages when
their vehicles are involved in crashes.
Companies in NY State stopped leasing cars
because of the law and the product that they offered cost more so the
passage of this law will save people leasing cars some money.
The Bill is found under HR3, Sec. 30106.
Rented or leased motor vehicle safety and responsibility
Sec. 30106. Rented or leased motor vehicle safety and responsibility
(a) In General- An owner of a motor vehicle that rents or leases the vehicle to a person (or an affiliate of the owner) shall not be liable under the law of any State or political subdivision thereof, by reason of being the owner of the vehicle (or an affiliate of the owner), for harm to persons or property that results or arises out of the use, operation, or possession of the vehicle during the period of the rental or lease, if--
(1) the owner (or an affiliate of the owner) is engaged in the trade or business of renting or leasing motor vehicles; and
(2) there is no negligence or criminal wrongdoing on the part of the owner (or an affiliate of the owner).
From the New
York State Automobile Dealers Association web site:
Leasing is a popular option for consumers
and small business owners, allowing conservation of cash, lower payments
and more frequent replacement into newer / safer vehicles.
In New York, over 25% of new vehicle sales
were leased, with many high-end and metropolitan dealers leasing 80% of
their vehicles.
Vicarious liability has caused unacceptable
losses for leasing companies and led over 70 such businesses to close
since September 2000. More importantly, consumers are losing a viable
option in controlling costs, which allowed them to transport their families
in newer and safer vehicles.
GMAC, Ford Motor Credit, Porsche and Chase
Financial have now ceased their leasing operations in New York State,
with others ready to follow suit, while other companies have created acquisition
charges to lessen their liability.
Under current New York law, if a vehicle
is purchased, the owner is liable; if leased, lessee is liable but leasing
company is also sued because its name is on the title and has "deep
pockets."
New York is now the only state with unlimited
vicarious liability. Connecticut and Rhode Island repealed their vicarious
liability laws in 2003.
Under the bill, manufacturers would remain
liable for defective products, but not for negligent drivers over which
they have no control.
This is a truly antiquated law dating to
1924 and meant to cover livery drivers of that era who had no assets or
insurance of their own.
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![]() LET US NOT FORGET THAT THE 65 TO 31 VOTE WAS OUR GREATEST VICTORY AND THE ANTI-GUNNERS GREATES DEFEAT IN DECADES. THIS VOTE WAS EVEN MORE IMPORTANT THAN THE END OF THE AW BAN. CAM EDWARDS MADE SOME GOOD POINT ON NRANEWS.COM I wish that they had left the
TRIGGER LOCK and ARMOR AMMO out of the bill but they did not. It
is hard to figure out what impact the details will have in the real
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CLICK HERE FOR THE FINAL BILL AS PASSED WITH AMENDMENTS
On July 29, 2005
at 05:11 PM the Senate passed the bill, S.
397, that will stop many of the lawsuits against gun makers, distributors
and sellers. Many of the cities and states that have passed legislation
that makes it easier to bring Civil Actions against those who legally
sell, distribute or make guns SHOULD now be rendered meaningless and
irrelevant and a moot point after this bill passes the House and is
signed by Pres. Bush, something
that he has promised to do. The next stop for the bill will be in
the House where HR
800 will have to come to a vote where it has 257 Cosponsors with
more expected and only 218 votes are needed to pass the legislation
so it looks like a done deal but we will have to wait. The House is
in recess till Sept. 2nd and we will have to see when it will be taken
up and voted on. If the House passes a bill that is not the same as
S 397, then it will have the go to conference committee that will be
appointed with both House and Senate members. This group will resolve
the differences in committee and report the identical measure back to
both bodies for a final vote.
The 65
to 31 vote was a big defeat or the anti-gunners who were unable
to tack on "killer amendments" this time like they did last
year. (S.
1805) It was almost a total rout with 14 Democrats voting for the
bill including Minority Leader Harry Reid of Nevada. Even Republican
turncoat now Independent Jumping Jim Jeffords voted for the bill. (Jeffords
was reported by Reuters
news service to have voted against the bill but the record shows,
Jeffords
(I-VT), Yea, that he voted for it.) With 4 no voters made up of
3 Republicans who were all cosponsors and one Democrat, Feinstein, that
would have made the final vote 68 to 32 and the 68 vote would even make
it a Veto proof even if the President Vetoed the bill. You can't do
much better than that.
The bill did have one Amendment added:
S.AMDT.1626
by Sen. Herb Kohl (D-Wisc.) who voted for the bill; "to require
the provision of a child safety lock in connection with the transfer
of a handgun." The vote, (#207)
was 70 for and 30 against. This is not seen as a problem by most people
because 90% of all gun makers already include a lock with their guns
but GOA and other do object. GOA makes the point of this was an unneeded
amendment because 90% of the gun makers include gun locks but it opens
the door for the next step that could be passed under an anti-gun Congress
and President. That next step would be a requirement that all guns be
locked up with the now required locks. (That is a bridge we will have
to cross when we get to it but for now we can celibate. For you really
hard core: no one wanted ANY added amendment but this one did pass so
are you saying that you would rather have NO bill rather than this one
that has the "Trigger Locks to be Sold With Guns but you don't
have to use them" amendment?) As John Lott has said: "despite
the obvious feel-good appeal of these rules, gun locks and safe storage
laws are more likely to cost lives than to save them."
Another Amendment passed: Amendment SA
1645 proposed by Senator Craig., "To regulate the sale and
possession of armor piercing ammunition, and for other purposes"
passed by Yea-Nay. 87 - 11. Record
Vote Number: 216. I have no idea what is in the Amendment but I
will find out and update this section. Sen. Craig was the original sponsor
of S 397 so I do not think that he would add anything negative to this
bill.
As you can guess, the anti-gunners are
going nuts. They are acting like their heads are going to explode.
For all of you who are always asking, "What
has the NRA done?" now you know. It has been a very good few months
for gun owners on a national level. First the Assault Weapon's Ban was
allowed to sunset and now this is passing. The NRA, GOA, SAF, RKBA and
all of the other groups on a national, state and local level should
be thanks and supported. I hope that the success does not go to anyone's
head and we think that we don't have to do anything anymore. WRONG.
None of the anti-gunners have gone away and they are using our success
as fund raisers. While the anti-gunners have been slowed down or defeated
in congress they have increased their efforts in the states and on a
local county and city level. The NY State Senate is only a few votes
away from passing the worse state
Assault Weapons ban in America and last month Columbus,
Ohio passes an expanded Assault Weapons Ban almost as bad as the
ban proposed for NY. Both these bills and others like them are written
by two anti-gun groups that are members of IANSA and have millions
of dollars to spend thanks to several anti-gun foundations and individuals
like George Soros. The anti-gun groups have had success on local levels
on issues like CA's 50 Cal ban and they are pushing hard for more 50
Cal. and AWBs on a local level across the nation.
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NRA News' own Ginny Simone was injured in a car accident several weeks
ago. She will be out for several more weeks.
If anyone wants to send her a card send it to:
Ginny Simone
C/O NRA News
201 North Union St. Suite 510
Alexandria, VA 22314
Ice Cube plays the hero
in this movie and ends up killing what must be hundreds of people using
hand, knife, gun rockets and just about anything else you can think
of. He is in Washington DC and has guns, I thought that was against
the law?
The one scene in the move he is meeting
with a woman in a restaurant who is waiting for an appointment. The
appointment happens to be with an NRA person. When Ice Cube is introduced,
Ice Tea states that he represents the Southern Baptist Brotherhood.
The NRA person state that they are planning an event and ask what they
can do to attract more blacks. Ice tea replies: "Perhaps you can
tell your members to Stop buying country music, Stop burning crosses
and Stop shooting Black Folks."
The scene had nothing to do with the plot,
(if you could find a plot past shoot everything and blow everything
up,) and should have been left on the cutting room floor. Just what
you would expect from Hollywood.
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