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KIDS AND GUNS


VERY YOUNG KIDS AND THE NRA " Eddie Eagle ®" GUN SAFETY PROGRAM

    Kids and guns do go together and you probably had some exposure to some type of gun by a parent, relative or neighbor by the time you were 18 years old.  Your impression of that encounter and others while you were a child helped form your opinion and attitude toward guns.  It is the responsibility of each gun owner to make that impression a positive one and to use the opportunity to teach gun safety and responsibility.  Nothing anyone can do can completely gun proof a child.  We can not completely gun-proof adults either.  We can, however, do a lot, and we should do everything that we can, to make very young kids safer around guns.  You know your child and you will have to decide what is correct when dealing with guns as well as all of the other things that you are responsible for.
    I will have to tell you one story.  I have a neighbor who was thinking about getting a shotgun "just in case" they needed it and because he is out of town several times a month.  He has 3 boys whose ages at that time were 2, 4 and 6 years old.  He asked me that if he bought a gun could he keep it at my house saying that he was worried what would happen when his kids became teenagers.  I told him no.
    What my neighbor did not realize was that years in advance he was stating that he was:

  • Unable to secure a gun so that his children would not have access.
  • Unable to know his children well enough to know when they were at a higher risk for some reason.
  • Unable to teach his children proper respect for firearms.
  • Unable to teach his children how to properly use and handle a firearm.
  • Unable to teach his children not to use firearms to threaten or hurt others.
    This same neighbor does have a backyard pool and has been willing to teach his kids how to swim and he lets his kids play in the pool whenever they want to.  He does not know that the facts show that his children are at a much greater risk of getting hurt by having the swimming pool than by having a gun.

    WHAT, AS PARENTS, ARE WE TO DO?

    We should be responsible adults and use reason and logic and not hysteria and misinformation.  We should do the same thing that we do when we teach our children about fire.  Smoky the Bear and his "Only you can prevent forest fires" is a good education program.  Everyone knows the "STOP, DROP AND ROLL."   The Eddie Eagle ® program teaches the phrases, "STOP, DON'T TOUCH, LEAVE THE AREA AND TELL AN ADULT.

I AM A VOLUNTEER FOR THE Eddie Eagle ® PROGRAM.  IF YOU WANT ANY INFORMATION ABOUT THE PROGRAM OR THE WORKBOOKS PLEASE CONTACT ME.  I HAVE ALREADY HELPED SEVERAL SCHOOLS IN THE AREA WITH THE PROGRAM.

PLEASE CLICK ON THE TWO PICTURES TO FIND OUT MORE INFORMATION ABOUT
EDDIE EAGLE

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TEACHING YOUNG KIDS TO SHOOT

    I have fond memories of my father teaching me to shoot a lever action, spring powdered DAISY BB rifle.  I started letting my daughter pull the trigger while I held the BB gun when she was about 6.  All of the same gun safety rules still apply to all BB guns, Pellet guns and air guns.  Make sure that you follow the "KNOW YOUR TARGET AND WHAT IS BEYOND." rule.  I would add "MAKE SURE THAT YOUR TARGET WILL ACCEPT YOUR BULLET/BB/PELLET."  (My neighbor was shooting at a paper target on a tree and the Pellets were glancing off the tree and into a neighbors yard.)  Please look at my "WHY YOU SHOULD BUY AN AIR GUN" page to find links to Daisy and Crosman.  They both make quality affordable rifles and pistols and have other information that you will find interesting.

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     Children should never have unrestricted access to any type of gun until they are old enough and responsible enough.  Please click on the PROJECT HOMESAFE  logo to link to a site that covers storage.

PROTECT YOUR HEARING
ALWAYS WEAR PROPER HEARING PROTECTION
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FROM The Dangerous Decibels project

Shooting a CRICKET
Several companies make small guns for the youth market.  Two of the basic are the CRICKET, (shown above,) and the Chipmunk.  They are both single shot 22 cal, bolt action but the hammer is not set when you close the bolt.  You have to reach up and pull the plunger back to cock it.  They are both very easy to use.

        CLICK HERE FOR A LIST OF MORE YOUTH GUNS

YOUNG SHOOTERS PROGRAMS

     Many clubs in the area have special shooting programs for young shooters who have reached the legal age to shoot.  Most start with single shot 22 Caliber rifles.  This is the smallest caliber that you can use, and is generally regarded as the safest and easiest gun to shoot for the beginner, but if you get good enough you can shoot the same caliber and type of gun in the OLYMPICS.  You can buy guns for less than $100 and go all the way to several thousand dollars.  Click on the links for the local clubs and see what they offer at this time. Each year many clubs have special one or two day shooting programs for kids such as the MONROE-CHESTER YOUTH DAY.
 

Kim Rhode, 16 Year Old, 1996 Olympic Gold Metal Winner
You can shoot in the Olympics if you qualify for the
National Shooting Team.
     The National Shooting Team is selected based on performance in competition. Olympic Gold Medallist, Kim Rhode has been a member of the National Team since she was 14 years old. Members of the National Team compete in International competitions like World Cups and the Pan American Games in order to shoot high enough score to qualify for the Olympic Games. Several months before the Olympic Games, Team members compete for the opportunity to be a member of the US Olympic Shooting Team.
     It takes a lot of work to become a member of the US Olympic Shooting Team. You can do it! And with members of the National Shooting Team ranging in age from 15 to over 50, it's never too late (or too early) to start down the Road to the Olympics. 
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THE LAW IN NEW YORK

    These are some of the NY Penal laws that deal with the age of shooters that define the legal age to shoot and it is important to know the legal age for kids to shoot different types of guns and under what conditions.  In general, PL 265.05 outlaws everything and then other sections of 265.xx list the exemptions that allows kids under a certain age to shoot if the rules are followed. I do not think that the police have a special program to catch people who are teaching their young kids to shoot in their back yard or basement as long as it is done in a safe manner and your neighbors houses or cars are not being hit.  As with all laws, these laws can change as they did change in 1999.  Some cities and counties might have local laws. NY City bans all BB/Pellet gun of any type and a few other cities ban or license posession of BB/Pellet guns. (Yonkers requires that you have a handgun license and then apply to put a BB/Pellet gun on your handgun license. Yonkers stupid law.)  Orange County does not have any special rules regarding air guns.  Use my links to look up PL 265 if you want to check on the current law. NOTE: The reader must take full and complete responsibility for the laws regarding firearms in his jurisdiction as well as proper safety precautions involving every facet of firearms and related components. This web site may contain errors, and it is the responsibility of the reader to check with his or her local law enforcement authorities as to the laws which dictate how, when, why, and where he may use firearms in any situation.

PL§ 265.05  Unlawful possession of weapons by persons under  sixteen.     It  shall  be  unlawful  for  any person under the age of sixteen to possess any air-gun, spring-gun or other instrument or weapon  in  which the propelling force is a spring or air, or any gun or any instrument or weapon in or upon which any loaded or blank cartridges may be  used,  or any  loaded or blank cartridges or ammunition therefor, or any dangerous knife; provided that the possession of rifle or  shotgun  or  ammunition therefor by the holder of a hunting license or permit issued pursuant to article eleven  of  the  environmental  conservation  law  and  used  in accordance with said law shall not be governed by this section.     A  person  who  violates  the  provisions  of  this section shall be adjudged a juvenile delinquent.
PL § 265.20 Exemptions.
     7. Possession, at an indoor or outdoor shooting range for the purpose of loading and firing, of a rifle or shotgun, the propelling force of which is gunpowder by a person under sixteen years of age but not under twelve, under the immediate supervision, guidance and instruction of (a) a duly commissioned officer of the United States army, navy, air force, marine corps or coast guard, or of the national guard of the state of New York; or (b) a duly qualified adult citizen of the United States who has been granted a certificate as an instructor in small arms practice issued by the United States army, navy, air force or marine corps, or by the adjutant general of this state, or by the national rifle association of America, a not-for-profit corporation duly organized under the laws of this state; or (c) a parent, guardian, or a person over the age of eighteen designated in writing by such parent or guardian who shall have a certificate of qualification in responsible hunting,  including safety, ethics, and landowner relations-hunter relations, issued or honored by the department of environmental conservation; or (d) an agent of the department of environmental conservation appointed to conduct courses in responsible hunting practices pursuant to article eleven of the environmental conservation law.
     7-a. Possession and use, at an indoor or outdoor pistol range located in or on premises owned or occupied by a duly incorporated organization organized for conservation purposes or to foster proficiency in small arms or at a target pistol shooting competition under the auspices of or approved by the national rifle association for the purpose of loading and firing the same, by a person duly licensed to possess a pistol or revolver pursuant to section 400.00 or 400.01 of this chapter of a pistol or revolver duly so licensed to another person who is present at the time.
     7-d. Possession, at an indoor or outdoor shooting range for the purpose of loading and firing, of a rifle, pistol or shotgun, the propelling force of which may be either air, compressed gas or springs, by a person under twelve years of age, under the immediate supervision, guidance and instruction of (a) a duly commissioned officer of the United States army, navy, marine corps or coast guard, or of the national guard of the state of New York; or (b) a duly qualified adult citizen of the United States who has been granted a certificate as an instructor in small arms practice issued by the United States army, navy or marine corps, or by the adjutant general of this state, or by the national rifle association of America, a not-for-profit corporation duly organized under the laws of this state; or (c) a parent, guardian, or a person over the age of eighteen designated in writing by such parent or guardian who shall have a certificate of qualification in responsible hunting, including safety, ethics, and landowner  relations-hunter relations, issued or honored by the department of environmental conservation.

CLICK HERE TO SEE MORE INFO ABOUT THE NEW LAW THAT ALLOWS
14 TO 21 YEAR OLDS USING A HANDGUN WITHOUT A LICENSE.

NY Penal law section 265.20
7-e. Possession and use of a pistol or revolver, at an indoor or outdoor pistol range located in or on premises owned or occupied by a duly incorporated organization organized for conservation purposes or to foster proficiency in small arms or at a target pistol shooting competition under the auspices of or approved by an association or organization described in paragraph 7-a of this subdivision for the purpose of loading and firing the same by a person at least fourteen years of age but under the age of twenty-one who has not been previously convicted of a felony or serious offense, and who does not appear to be, or pose a threat to be, a danger to himself or to others; provided however, that such possession shall be of a pistol or revolver duly licensed to and shall be used under the immediate supervision, guidance and instruction of, a person specified in paragraph seven of this subdivision.

 


KIDS, GUNS AND CRIME
from http://www.pulpless.com/gunclock/kids.html

Here's what a 1995 federal study investigating juvenile crime found after looking at 20,000 randomly selected households:

Relationship between type of gun owned and percent committing street, drug and gun crimes.

Illegal gun:
Street crimes = 74%
Drug use = 41%
Gun crimes = 21%

No gun:
Street crimes = 24%
Drug use = 15%
Gun crimes = 1%

Legal Gun:
Street crimes = 14%
Drug use = 13%
Gun crimes = 0%

"The socialization into gun ownership is also vastly different for legal and illegal gunowners. Those who own legal guns have fathers who own guns for sport and hunting. On the other hand, those who own illegal guns have friends who own illegal guns and are far more likely to be gang members. For legal gunowners, socialization appears to take place in the family; for illegal gunowners, it appears to take place 'on the street.'"

"Boys who own legal firearms have much lower rates of delinquency and drug use and are even slightly less delinquent than nonowners of guns."
Source: U.S. Department of Justice, National Institute of Justice, Office of Juvenile Justice and Delinquency Prevention, NCJ-143454, "Urban Delinquency and Substance Abuse," August 1995.



 
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