Orange County NY Shooters
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NOTE

I still get people who fail to list an arrest for minor charges including this also includes some serious driving violations that are listed as misdemeanors like driving on a suspended license.  IF YOU FAIL TO LIST AN ARREST, DON'T EXPECT TO GET A LICENSE. THE JUDGE DOES NOT WANT TO HEAR THAT YOU FORGOT BEING ARRESTED! (How stupid do you think that you sound to the Judge when you say that you forgot the only time that you have been handcuffed, placed in the back of a cop car, read your rights, been fingerprinted, searched, placed in a jail cell, appeared for arraignment, hired a lawyer and gone to trial but this does not have to happen in all cases. Some violations, like driving on a suspended license are arrest even though you were only given a ticket. Check with your lawyer!)

     Just remember that the sooner you turn in your application, the sooner you get your license. 

HOW TO GET A PISTOL LICENSE IN ORANGE COUNTY, NEW YORK

    It is not difficult to get a pistol license in Orange County if you are 21 years old, qualify and follow the county and state requirements.  It will cost you a small amount of money and a few months for the paperwork to go through, a few hours for a class and some meetings but generally all you do is turn in your application, pay your money and wait. It is easier than you think, (but to be honest, it would be a lot easier if we lived in many other states.)   If you have no major problems in your background and can get four people to sign as references, then you should have no problem.
    If you are between 14 and 21 a new law passed in 2006 prevents you from getting a license but the new law allows you to shoot at a range under supervision.  (See below.)

INFORMATION SPECIFIC TO ORANGE COUNTY

Because of the size of the file this page has been split into several pages.
Click on the colored heading to go to the related page.
INFORMATION ABOUT SPECIFIC NEW YORK STATE REQUIREMENTS
  • HOW LONG WILL IT TAKE?
  • HOW DO I BUY MY FIRST GUN?
  • WHAT ABOUT RESTRICTION ON MY LICENSE?
  • WHAT ARE THE STATE REQUIREMENTS?
  • WHAT TYPE OF LICENSE SHOULD I APPLY FOR?
  • WHAT ARE SOME STATE LAWS THAT I SHOULD KNOW ABOUT?
  • WHEN DO I HAVE TO CARRY MY LICENSE AND AMENDMENTS?
  • I HAVE A GUN BUT NO LICENSE.
  • I'VE BEEN A BAD PERSON.
OTHER INFORMATION, THE FEDERAL BRADY LAW & MYTHS
  • OTHER IMPORTANT INFORMATION.
  • WHAT ABOUT THE BRADY LAW AND NICS CHECK?
  • POPULAR MYTHS
  • PEPPER SPRAY

 
INFORMATION SPECIFIC TO ORANGE COUNTY


GETTING AN APPLICATION:

The original source for all applications is:
You can now download the initial application called the Pistol Permit Pedigree Sheet (PPS-01) and the Arrest / Charge Affidavit that must be notarized.
The application will give you all of the instructions for filling out the pistol application and will tell you everything that you need to know.

If you need to go to the County Clerk's Pistol License, the office has moved and is now at the back of Valley View.

CLICK HERE FOR DIRECTIONS 

    The people who work in the office are very nice and will try as hard as they can to help you and to supply you with the information that you request.  You can stop by and pick up an application or they will mail you an application and list. Just remember that they can not tell you when or how a judge will rule on your application or make judges work any faster.  They can not tell you what to fill in on the application so that you get what you want. They also have other jobs to do so just remember that your request might not be the most important thing that they must do on any given day.

2015

The application can be downloade along with the Arrest/Charge Affidavit.

The Sheriff's Department started offering NON-NRA courses in April of 2014 in order to raise some more money. The course is not to as high of a standard as NRA Pistol classes. Initially the Sheriff's Department would only accept safety class certificates from instructors that they approved and who gave the Sheriff's Department’s own poor attempt at a safety course. I filed a lawsuit against the changes and on 6/15/2015 the Orange County Sheriff's Department caved and started accepting certificates from people who were not on their approved list of instructors and taught the Orange County Sheriff's Department's Course. The Orange County Sheriff's Department has made a big deal about their "list of approved and recommended instructors." While the Orange County Sheriff’s Department did require all instructors to be NRA Certified Instructors, (originally at least one of the Orange County Sheriff’s Department’s own instructors was not an NRA Certified Instructor,) some of the people on the list have given very few if any classes and many instructors who were previously giving the NRA class were giving a better class than the Orange County Sheriff's Department's Course.

Stay tuned for additional changes required because of my lawsuit.
CLICK HERE FOR MY LAWSUIT WEB PAGE

SIMPLE OUTLINE OF THE PROCESS

Download your application and arrest affidavit. Pistol Permit Pedigree Sheet (PPS-01) and the Arrest / Charge Affidavit

Fill out your paperwork, get your Postal Money Order and go to the Sheriff's Department to turn in your paperwork and get fingerprinted. (Depending on demand, AS OF 7/22/16 YOU HAVE A 5 TO 6 MONTH WAIT TO GET FINGERPRINTED, you might have to make an appointment to turn in your application so call the Sheriff's Department as soon as you start the process. Some people have had to wait up to four months but you can never tell how long it will take you to get an appointment. MAKE THE APPOINTMENT, if you don't have everything done you can always reschedule.) When you turn in your "Pedigree Sheet" the Sheriff's Department will enter your information into the computer, print your application with fingerprints and picture and give your actual application along with your character reference questionnaires.(And any other forms they decide that you should fill out.)

Get your reference questionnaires filled out and have your references sign both copies of your application. Put down a deposit on a gun if you want to and/or fill out the "co-owned firearm" form if you are cross registering a handgun(s) with someone else and attend your safety class. Purchase of a handgun BEFORE a handgun license is issued is not required starting 3/4/16. After your license is issued you can then add a gun whenever you want to using an AMENDMENT FORM.

Go back to the Sheriff's Department and turn in everything and have your interview or you might have to have to make an appointment for a later date. (If you don't have your Safety Class certificate, ask them what they want you to do. You might be able to hand it in later.) YOU DON'T HAVE TO REGISTER A HANDGUN ON YOUR INITIAL LICENSE.

Wait. (If you don't hear anything in a few months, call the Pistol License Department to see where your application is. If the Judge has had your application for several weeks you can always call the Judge's office to find out what is going on. Be nice!)

Depending on what you requested and who your judge is you might get a letter to go see your Judge.

You will get a letter from the Pistol License Department telling you to come in and pick up your license.

You will go to the Pistol License Department, have your picture taken, give them a thumb print to go on your license; they will print out your license and give you your license and "Pick up slip."

You take your license and "pick up slip" and go to your gun store to pick up your handgun.

Pistol Permits Requirements
(List by the Pistol Permit Department)
(I have include links and my comments in Orange.)
Updated 2/15/05

  1. Applicant must be 21 years of age and an Orange County Resident.
  2. Applicant must take a HANDGUN SAFETY COURSE. (CLICK HERE FOR INFORMAION ON MY CLASS)
  3. You can purchase a handgun BEFORE OR AFTER you are issued a license or you can cross register handguns. (Use the Sheriff's Department's incorrectly labled "Co-owner" form.).
  4. Four Orange County References. They must live here (It does not matter who they are.)
  5. Must be finger printed for FBI and State Clearance, at the Orange County Sheriff's Department.
  6. Fees $99.75 made out to Orange County Commissioner of Finance.  Postal Money Order ONLY (Changed fee 2014 for fingerprints and application.)
  7. You cannot be convicted of a felony.
  8. Turn in complete application to the Orange County Sheriff's Department.
  9. Takes 2-3 months, ( but NY law allows up to 6 months.)

UNOFFICIAL COPIES OF INSTRUCTIONS 
AND  QUESTIONS ON FORMS
* Please note that the instruction or forms can change without notice.
Always follow the instructions given to you with your application.

PISTOL PERMIT PEDIGREE SHEET (Orange County Link)

ARREST / CHARGE AFFIDAVIT (Orange County Link)

 

This is just an example of what the actual official NY State Pistol Application form looks like.

NYS PISTOL/REVOLVER LICENSE APPLICATION FORM


WHEN AND WHERE TO TURN IN YOUR APPLICATION:

    After you have filled out the "Pedigree sheet" and have your "Arrest Affidavit" notarized you will go to the Sheriff's Department to be fingerprinted and turn the application in to the I. D. officer.  NOTE: You can call 291-7687 for directions and hours and to make an appointment. The instructions with the application will provide the phone numbers and dates and times you can have your fingerprints taken. NOTE: If you still have an old application remember to bring the receipt for $10 as proof that you paid the application fee when you picked up your application.

The Sheriff's Office is now requiring that you make an appointment to get fingerprinted and to turn in your application. CALL 291-7932. They also add additional hours when they have to. Call to verify hours. THEIR IS A 5 TO 6 MONTH WAIT TO BE FINGERPRINTED AS OF 7/22/16.

Check your instructions and verify hours. Standard Fingerprinting Hours for the Orange County Sheriff's Department as of 6/25/2015. (Subject to change without notice.)

NORMAL HOURS:
Monday 9:00 AM  to 12:00 Noon
Wednesday  2:00 PM to 6:00 PM
Friday 9:00 AM  to 12:00 Noon
1st & 3rd Saturday 9:00 AM to 12:00 Noon
WHEN DEMAND IS HIGH THEY HAVE ADDED SUNDAYS AND EVENING HOURS YOU WILL FIND OUT WHAT THEY ARE WHEN YOU CALL FOR YOUR APPOITMENT.

Light at corner to go to Sheriff's Office.
New Sheriff's Office
Turn north on 6 1/2 Station Rd.
(Healey Brothers is on the corner.)
Take a left on to Wells Farm Rd.
Drive all the way around back and go in the door.

      You can fill out and turn in your application before you are 21 but NY State law requires that you be 21 to get a license.  Because state law only gives the issuing Judge 6 months to issue a license without explaining why it is taking so long, you do not gain anything by turning in your license application more than 6 months before your 21st birthday.  It is taking between 3 and 6 months to process and issue pistol licenses with 4 months being about the average.  The new law also allows people between 14 and 21 to shoot a handgun under 265.20 (7-e) so you do not need a license for that and you can shoot when you are taking the required safety class.

7-e. Possession and use of a pistol or revolver,  at  an  indoor  or outdoor  pistol  range  located in or on premises owned or occupied by a duly incorporated organization organized for conservation purposes or to foster proficiency in small arms or at a target pistol shooting competition under the auspices of or approved by an association or organization described in paragraph 7-a of this subdivision for the purpose of  loading  and  firing the same by a person at least fourteen years of age but under the age of twenty-one who has not been previously convicted  of  a felony  or  serious  offense,  and  who does not appear to be, or pose a threat to be, a danger to himself or to others; provided  however,  that such  possession  shall  be of a pistol or revolver duly licensed to and shall be used under the immediate supervision, guidance and  instruction of, a person specified in  paragraph seven of this subdivision.
CLICK HERE FOR MORE INFORMATION


WHAT ARE ORANGE COUNTY'S REQUIREMENTS?

    Orange County really has only a few additional requirements:
    First is that the four Orange County residents who sign as character references on your application, (required by ny law,) must also fill in a short and simple questionnaire(not required by NY law.)   You will be given 4 copies of the questionnaire when you get your Pistol License Application at the Sheriff's Department when you are fingerprinted.. You are  responsible for having your character references fill out the questionnaire THAT MUST BE NOTARIZED.  You will then turn in the four questionnaires when you turn in your application to the Sheriff's Department. Talk to the Sheriff's Department if you are new to the area and have a hard time finding the four Orange County residents.  You may use anyone that you know who lives in Orange County no matter how long that they have known you.  You may use your boss, your real-estate agent, your postmen, your banker, your insurance agent or anyone else.  (The people who sign as references are not admitting any legal responsibility for you and their names are not on your license or any public record.)
     Some people have had a problem with their references failing to return their references questionnaire. Because of this you should make a copy of a blank questionnaire and do not let the people sign your application yet. When you go to pick up the notarized questionnaire then have the people sign the application. If you have the people sign the application first and then for some reason you never get the notarized questionnaire back then you have a problem because their name is still on your application.

Pistol Permit Reference Forms must be notarized in the presence of the signatory, 4/15/04

     The Orange County Sheriff's Office is encountering problems with pistol permit applications. At present, 4 character reference forms are to be submitted notarized with the application. The Sheriff's Department has done some spot checks on the notarizations, and has found that some notaries are notarizing the forms not in the presence of the signatory. This is a violation of law that the Department of State does not tolerate, nor does the Sheriff's Department. When submitting pistol permit applications, please ensure that each character reference form is signed in the presence of a notary. The Sheriff's Office takes the issuance of a pistol permit very seriously, and will deny processing the permit if any laws are broken for convenience or to cut corners.

CLICK HERE TO SEE A COPY OF THE CHARACTER REFERENCE FORM
     A second requirement is that you sign and have notarized the ARREST / CHARGE AFFIDAVIT. This is because so many people who have been arrested failed to report the arrest and then claimed that they did not know that they were suppose to report that arrest that happened that they had been told the arrest was "SEALED" or expunged. Your records were sealed or expunged but the arrest was not so they will be found. (See note below) (added 6/6/03)
    A third requirement is that all judges will require that applicants take a firearms training class unless you are exempt because of proof of acceptable training less than 10 years old.  (See the next topic)
    A fourth requirement is that you will have to have an interview with an investigator for the Sheriff's Department to go over your form. This meeting with the investigator is to re-ask you the questions you answered on the original application, (Such as, "Since you turned in this application HAVE YOU EVER UNDERGONE TREATMENT FOR ALCOHOLISM OR DRUG USE?"), and to go over any problems that the investigation uncovered in your background.  (See PLEASE NOTE below.)  It should be an easy meeting and only take a few moments.
 
    An optional requirement is a meeting with your issuing Judge.  After the Sheriff's Department forwards the results of their investigation to your issuing Judge, you might get a letter to arrange a meeting with your Judge.  A meeting is not required by law but the Judge might request to meet you for many reasons such as: the type of license you requested, your restrictions, your background or he or she may just want to meet you.  Some Judges do not require a meeting when they issue a restricted license.  Do not get too upset about your meeting with your Judge.  Look on it like a job interview; be nice, say "Yes your honor, No your honor," dress nice and do not bring up the Second Amendment.  Remember that it is the Judge's job to decide if you get a license and not the Sheriff's Department.
    Orange County does not have a formal specific limit on the number of handguns that you can own. SEE: OTHER IMPORTANT INFORMATION.

ARREST: From the ARREST / CHARGE AFFIDAVIT and the license application: "HAVE YOU EVER BEEN ARRESTED OR INDICTED ANYWHERE FOR ANY OFFENSE, INCLUDING DWI (EXCEPT TRAFFIC INFRACTIONS)?"  Look at the bottom of the application, "ANY OMISSION OF FACT OR ANY FALSE STATEMENT WILL BE SUFFICIENT CAUSE TO DENY THIS APPLICATION ..."  The Sheriff's Department does a very good investigation. If you have ever been taken before a judge, had your fingerprints taken or been taken into custody anywhere, at any age, for any reason you would be well advised to go over the details with the Sheriff's Department before you fail to list something that should be listed and/or call your lawyer and obtain legal advice!  Some violations of traffic laws are also arrest. If you were given a ticket for driving on a suspended drivers license it is an arrest even if you were only given a ticket.   Also list DWAIs. Even Court files that were dismissed and sealed before you were a teenager will be found out.  It does not matter if it was a run in with the law or a mental health problem, you should not think that anything that you have done from the day you were born to the day you applied for your license will be missed in the investigation.  (I know of one person who was refused a license because they failed to list a possibly questionable ruling by a Family Court Judge when the person was less than 10 years old.)   However, just because you did do something minor years ago does not mean that you will not get a license.  Very few people have had a perfect life and I do know of people who were arrested and convicted, (I don't want to say what for,) and were still able to get a license.  It is up to your Judge to decide so let them decide.  If you want a license, fill out the application with the correct information and apply.  See: I'VE BEEN A BAD PERSON(I do not know what words to use to convey the message that you should be honest in filling out your application and that your Judge will be fair and will give you a fair hearing according to the law when deciding on the day the license is issued if you are a person " ... of good moral character; ...".  See PL400 under WHAT ARE THE STATE REQUIREMENTS? ) CLICK HERE TO SEE INFORMATION ABOUT SEALED COURT RECORDS

HOW DO I GET MY FIRST GUN FOR MY LICENSE?
Also see: BUYING YOUR FIRST GUN AND LEARNING TO SHOOT.)

     You no longer have to have a handgun(s) to put on your license when you apply for a handgun license. IF you want to have a handgun on your initil application you have 2 options:

  1.      You can buy a gun from a gun store. All of the local gun stores know how this works so it is nothing new to them. You will have to pick out a gun, put down a deposit and get a deposit slip showing the make, model and serial number of the gun/guns you will add to your license. If for some reason you end up not getting you license, all of the stores that I know of will refund your deposit but they might require that you pay some restocking fee. Ask.
  2.      You can have someone who owns a gun sell you a gun or allow you to add their gun/guns to your license. This will require that you turn in a notarized Sheriff's Department incorrectly name "Co-owned Firearms" form saying that you can have the guns on your license and listing the gun/guns by make, model and serial number with a copy of the owners pistol license both front and back. (After you have your license you will not be required to have the letter cross registering handguns notarized when you turn in your amendment to the Pistol Department.) Having a handgun on your license does not imply ownership and NY Law does not require ownership to have a handgun listed on your license.


WHAT IS THE REQUIRED FIREARMS TRAINING CLASS?

    Due to my lawsuit, I have found out SOME Judges do not require a class or at least the Undersheriff has not provided any proof that they do require applicants to take a class. (Why should you have to take a class when you don't know if you are going to get a license?) At this time the Sheriff's Department requires completing a safety class or proof of training less than 10 years old, such as Military small arms or police training even though this is not required in NY State law.  If you are not exempt, you will need to locate a class. Of course I want you to take my course but other people also offer classes. CLICK HERE TO SEE MORE INFO ABOUT MY CLASS

I WOULD NOT TAKE THE COURSE AT THE SHERIFF'S DEPARTMENT. You will not gain any benefit just because you took the Sheriff's Department's Class as far as the processing your application and they only cover about half of what an my class covers. Handgun Classes that are sometimes offered by some local clubs are also accepted.   Costs for the class range between $35 to $150 or more, and the class can last from 3 hours to 10 hours.
(No agreement could be reach as to what the class would cover and the Sheriff's Department and the Judges did not implement PL 400 (3)(b) Application for an exemption under paragraph seven-b of subdivision a of section 265.20 of this chapter,  that would allow a license applicant to handle and fire a handgun.  Because of this it is technically illegal to touch or shoot a handgun while taking a safety class!  Go figure!  (This changed for some people in 2000 and again in 2006 when a new law allows persons from 14 to 21 of age to shoot a handgun at a range under a certified instructor without a license.)) 


    NOTE: If you are not yet 21 you can shoot a handgun as part of your class.  Talk to your instructor.


WHO WILL MY JUDGE BE?

    Each county sets up its own system of how the licenses will be issued and what judges will be in charge.  Orange County divided the county up, and 6 judges issue licenses.  It is impossible to tell with a simple system who your judge will be, but the list that follows shortly will give you a good idea.  You will have to call the Pistol License Dept. and ask them if it is really important.  This is not a very uniform system because the law allows each judge to do what ever they want to do.  That means that each of the 6 judges picks out what they will require, what restrictions they will or will not put on a license and what other standards have to be met.  The judges do have some informal understanding of how some things will work and what the Sheriff's Department is required to do.  Each judge is elected for 10 years and they have to retire at age 70.  Of all of the votes that anyone can make that has a direct impact on handgun licenses in Orange County, THIS IS IT!

    All judges fall under the jurisdiction of the 9th Judicial Court.  You can contact the Judges through the County's main phone # of 291-2690.  (I would not call them.  They will contact you if they need or want to talk to you.)

Handgun Licensing Judges
This list was changed on 6/19/15
Judge's Name Party  Elected Towns Covered
Hon. DeRosa Rep. 1997, 1st City of Middletown, Town of Mt. Hope, Wallkill, Wawayanda
Hon. Lori Currier Woods Rep. 2006, 1st. Towns of Blooming Grove, Hamptonburgh, Woodbury, Bellvale, Burlingham, Campbell Hall, Castel Point, Central Valley, Harriman, Highland Mills, New Milford, Salisbury Mills, Southfield, Washingtonville,
Hon. Carol Kline
(Family Court)
Rep. Appointed
5/25/00
2001, 1st
Towns of Deerpark, Greenville, Minisink, Highlands, Fort Montgomery, Godeffroy, Highland Falls, Huganought, Johnson, Westbrookville, West Town, Unionville, Cuddebackville, Greenville
Hon. Christine Krahulik
(Family Court)
Rep. 2014, 1st Town of Cornwall, New Windsor, Vails Gate, Cornwwall on Hudson, Mountainville, Rock Tavern, Steward Air Force,
Hon. Craig S. Brown .Rep. 2016, 1st Town of Montgomery (Walden), Crawford, Monroe, Chester, and Marlboro (Hon. Berry retired 6/2015), Arden, Maybrook, Pine Bush, Sugar Loaf, Thompson Ridge, Bullville
Hon. Robert H Freehill Rep. 2007 Towns of Goshen, Warwick, Tuxedo, City of Port Jervis, West Point Military Academy and the City and Town of Newburgh, Sterling Forest, Pine Island, Middlehope, Marlboro, Greenwood Lake, Florida.

*6/2015 Judge Berry retired and left an open seat. His permits were being cycled through all of the judges until early 2016 when Judge Brown was elected to replace him. Judge Brown will start working on permits at some point in the middle of 2016. He is currently working in Westchester County on a short term basis. Judge Edward T. McLoughlin from Westchester is the issuing Judge until Brown takes over. I have no explation as to why they did this.
(On Jan. 11, 2007 Judge Freehill was given the following towns that had been covered by the following Judges: Hon. Lori Currier Woods lost Tuxedo, Warwick: Hon. Carol Kline lost City of Port Jervis, Goshen. West Point Academy is a new area.)
(On 7/28/08 Judge Kiedaisch stopped issuing pistol licenses and her towns were divided between Berry, who got Marlboro and Freehill who got the City and Town of Newburgh.)


HOW MUCH WILL IT COST?

You will have to pay for:

  • $97.75 in total when you go to get fingerprinted (You download the initial application form for free.) (Postal Money order only made out to Orange County Commissioner of Finance.)
  • $35.00 to $85 for the firearms training class

    Total $132.75 to $177.75 for the application and safety class

NOTE: The NEW YORK STATE EXECUTIVE LAW SECTION 837 (ARTICLE 35 - DIVISION OF CRIMINAL JUSTICE SERVICES), was amendment EFFECTIVE 7/1/03, increasing the fingerprint processing fee from seventy four dollars ($74.00) to ninety nine dollars ($99.00). However the fee was reduced to $94.25 on Oct. 1st of 2007 when the FBI decreased the fee for the computer taken fingerprint check and reduced again to $91.50 in March of 2012.

In 2004, Gov. Mario Pataki tried to introduce 5 year renewable licenses with
$100 going to NY State and allowing counties to charge an unlimited fee.
Gov. Paterson has introduced legislation for renewable licenses starting in 2008.

Click here for more information

Under the NY SAFE Act, all licenses will have to be "recertified" starting in 2018.
This process will verify your address and the guns you own only, It is not a renewal or reapplication and should be free.


HOW DO I GET MY LICENSE AFTER THE LICENSE IS APPROVED?

     The Pistol Permit Department will send you a letter stating that you license is ready to be picked up. Starting in 2005 all licenses are now the plastic "drivers license' type. You will have to go to the Pistol Permit Department in Goshen to have your digital picture taken and be given your license.

PAST CHANGES

2016 Changes

3/4/2016, Orange County no longer requires that you purchase a handgun BEFORE you are issued a pistol permit. After you have your handgun license you can add a handgun(s) using the Amendment Form.

2015 CHANGE

The Sheriff's Department took over the list of instructors and only "approved" instructors who teach the Sheriff's Department's class were allowed on the list and for the first six months of 2015 the Sheriff's Department would only accept Safety Certificates issued by their approved instructors. I objected to the new requirements and because of that the Undersheriff Ken Jones would not put me on the list of "approved" instructors. After I brought my lawsuit they changed their mind and now accept "safety certificates" from all instructors.

2013 CHANGE

The Sheriff's Office is now requiring that you make an appointment to get fingerprinted and to turn in you application. CALL 291-7932

2012 CHANGE

The fee for the fingerprinting has changed and is now $91.50.

Fingerprinting Hours for the Orange County Sheriff's Department:

Monday 10:30 AM  to 12:00 Noon
Wednesday  3:30 PM to 5:30 PM
Friday 10:30AM to 12:00 Noon
1st & 3rd Saturday 8:00 AM to 12:00 Noon

2009/2010 CHANGES

The Orange County Sheriff's Department has added additional hours by adding Friday 10:30 to Noon and not requiring appointments on Wed. They have also changed how they do the interview. If you have all of your paperwork, (a copy of: 1. receipt for a handgun, 2. safety class certificate and 3. your letter justifying your need for an unrestricted license,) when you turn in your pistol application and reference letters, they will try to do your interview then so you will not have to come back.  If you don't have your paperwork you can give it do them at a latter date.  (They prefer you fax everything to them at 291-7686 but if you mail it please put Attention Pistol Permits on the letter.)  Also if you provided two forms of ID that shows you live where you live they will sometimes wave the home visit. The best IDs are cable, phone, oil, gas & electric bills that show your name and address.

6/2007 CHANGES

     The Orange County Sheriff's Department has some new equipment that they are using to process pistol application so some changes are being made to the forms and process.
     You will no longer need to get the additional pictures, a savings of $10. You will also not have to get ink on your fingers. The whole process is being computerized.
     The biggest change is that once you get your fingerprints done, you will have 60 to complete the forms and return them. The 60 day time limit starts when you have your fingerprints done.
      After you turn in your filled in application they still have to do all of the other checks so it might not speed up the process too much.
     You will not have to have your receipt for the gun you are adding to your license or your safety class certificate until you have your Sheriff's Department interview. If you have the stuff when you turn in your application and want to turn it in, that is OK also.

YOU MUST USE BLACK INK
ON ALL OF THE FORMS
INCLUDING THE
CHARACTER REFERENCE FORM

1/1/05 CHANGES

     Starting Jan. 1, 2005 it will cost you $10 to pick up a pistol license application. The law allows them to charge the fee and in the past you paid the $10 when you turned in your application. The reason for the change is that people were picking up applications and never turning them in so they were handing out thousands of applications but only getting a few hundred back.
     They will stamp your application when you pick it up and give you a receipt. You have to keep the receipt when to show the Orange County Sheriff's Department as proof of payment when you hand in your application.

      Don't complain about the $10. It cost them much more than $10 to provide the applications and to process the paperwork. The $10 fee was written into the law decades ago and has never been changed. Several counties have had the law changed to have renewable licenses and to increase the fees. Nassau County charges $200 for a 5 year license, and NY City charges $340 for a 3 year license. In 2004, Pataki tried to introduce 5 year renewable licenses with $100 going to NY State and each county being allowed to charge anything that they want and you know that some counties would have charged $1,000 or more per gun. Now you can expect the anti-gun people in the NY Assembly and Senate to introduce a renewable license bill every year from now on until it passes. Just another reason to join not only the NRA but also NY State groups like SCOPE: The Shooter's Committee On Political Education, New York State Rifle and Pistol Association or the Orange County Federation of Sportsmen.

 


 
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